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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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The group that finds you very intertaining. I could go on, but that one sentence alone should be enough for you and your wit.
Hmmm... okay. So this "group" cannot muster the courage to ask me and would rather deem you their leader? Sorry, but that romper room scenario has been all too played out on the internet. When I have my results I will post them. In the meantime do your civic duty for your group of peoples ( ) and search for my setup as well as my goals and what I expect and plan your next angle of attack.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR

I haven't implied anything. Congratulations are in order though. You are the ONLY one on this forum who knows how to get a LE/BRE setup to work.

I've got magic wrenches then

Ya know, it would be nice to try "other" companies stuff to do a side by side, but I just don't have the $$ to be messing with setups like that. If I had a second shortblock to do it with I might have even tried it, but I don't want to tear apart mine for an experiment

It would after all, be the "be all, end all" of all these shenanigans....

Per a PM I received earlier, I'm going to make a "How I made my LE setup work for me" thread a little later.. maybe it will help others, who knows..

I'm in a funny spot here.. I don't nutswing off anybody, but the stuff on my car works well. I'm open minded to other setups and if my car had not performed well this setup would have been long gone... but since it does, I'm gonna keep rollin' with it
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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I've got magic wrenches then

Ya know, it would be nice to try "other" companies stuff to do a side by side, but I just don't have the $$ to be messing with setups like that. If I had a second shortblock to do it with I might have even tried it, but I don't want to tear apart mine for an experiment
That isn't necessary. There have been many other setups posted on this site that have done well in the years past. Maybe LE/BRE are the only ones that are in existence today? Because I don't see anyone using any other combos.
It would after all, be the "be all, end all" of all these shenanigans....
Nope... there are variables in every single scenario. Remember the AI thread where Lloyd wanted to put his heads on an AI car? There were points made as to why even those results couldn't be trusted.
Per a PM I received earlier, I'm going to make a "How I made my LE setup work for me" thread a little later.. maybe it will help others, who knows..
That'd be cool. You may start getting flak however if someone does claim to follow your tutorial and still does badly.
I'm in a funny spot here.. I don't nutswing off anybody, but the stuff on my car works well. I'm open minded to other setups and if my car had not performed well this setup would have been long gone... but since it does, I'm gonna keep rollin' with it
I agree. Your combo works very well. I'm just puzzled as to why you are basically the ONLY one w/ a stock shortblock and running the mph you are and no one else can.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
I'm in a funny spot here.. I don't nutswing off anybody, but the stuff on my car works well. I'm open minded to other setups and if my car had not performed well this setup would have been long gone... but since it does, I'm gonna keep rollin' with it

That feeling of doubt that you posted before and illude to here isn't present when you order from other companies. I ordered my parts knowing what I wanted and could expect. Granted I put in many many hours of hard work to get things sorted out (mostly cause I break a lot of parts while racing), I never doubted the parts or setup.

Some companies provide a sense of security with their respectable customer cars, background and expertise. No smoke and mirrors to appear that way.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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SS You really are clever aren't you? You really should tell US about your current build. Maybe we can help you out. Gonna run faster than low 12s? How much you gonna spend this time? Think cubes are the answer? Inquiring minds what to know. Or at least I do.
Perhaps he's running a BRE cam. He'll never tell!
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
That isn't necessary. There have been many other setups posted on this site that have done well in the years past. Maybe LE/BRE are the only ones that are in existence today? Because I don't see anyone using any other combos.
To this day I can't even tell you why I chose one over the other. For some reason when I ordered the stuff I could have sworn there were more cars running better, but whateva.. worked out for me.

Originally Posted by SS RRR
Nope... there are variables in every single scenario. Remember the AI thread where Lloyd wanted to put his heads on an AI car? There were points made as to why even those results couldn't be trusted.
True, I mean, someone would have to call me a flat out liar I guess if I tried it (which I won't.. my next build years from now will most likely be an LSx build)...

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That'd be cool. You may start getting flak however if someone does claim to follow your tutorial and still does badly.
It's a possibility.. their problem though I guess. I can only share what's worked for me.

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I agree. Your combo works very well. I'm just puzzled as to why you are basically the ONLY one w/ a stock shortblock and running the mph you are and no one else can.
It puzzles me as much as it puzzles you honestly.

Originally Posted by tireburnin
That feeling of doubt that you posted before and illude to here isn't present when you order from other companies. I ordered my parts knowing what I wanted and could expect. Granted I put in many many hours of hard work to get things sorted out (mostly cause I break a lot of parts while racing), I never doubted the parts or setup.

Some companies provide a sense of security with their respectable customer cars, background and expertise. No smoke and mirrors to appear that way.
My car doesn't perform much different than examples listed on "some companies" site, even after only my first few passes where I have room to gain I imagine.

So, given that... IMO, my worries were silly.

I also put hard work into my car, but nothing ridiculous. I think most of the parts doubt came from reading these threads and being frustrated when my car was still "under construction"

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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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So is the business run out of your home/garage? If so, do you actually grind your own cams or only design them? Have someone else grind them and put your name on them?
Ha..even the "great" Lingenfelter cams are ground by Comp...pull your head out alter ego and use your real screen name.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zigroid
I have been working on getting all the bugs worked out of my LE2 setup.
Last time dyno, was 400 RWHP and 361 RWTQ...This is on STOCK valves and beehive springs with the LE2 camshaft.
After I did some tuning and fine tweaking some stuff,
New numbers are 415 RWHP and 381 RWTQ.
Car feels amazingly fast.

I also took it to Houston Raceway Park, ran a couple of passes.
Best motor pass was a
11.7 @ 118
1.70 60 ft.
Had some issues with the nitrous system, WOT switch became loose and didn't hit nitrous in the top of 3rd or any of 4th
Still went 11.1 @ 128
No full numbers as the car is not legal to run those times, no fire jacket or 5-point harness....

Thanks again to Lloyd and Bret for all their help and outstanding customer service and providing an LT1 package that performs!!!!!!

Joseph
Originally Posted by Zigroid
I know they're strokers but regardless it shows that lloyd and bret put out fine combinations.
I can't find anywhere in that thread ( http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=365375 ) that states that Kryckter's car is a stroker. From what I can tell, it's a stock rebuild stock cubed motor...?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vilkata
Actually - I'm not quite aware of what he does. Thus, the questions.

And no hidden agenda, I've asked before if there have been any independent tests done to confirm or deny the claims. Granted there are a lot of posts that support the quality - but seem to be just as many that counter such. I guess one could even read this thread to see that. I'd imagine that there are many more for both sides.

One thing I've found while trying to do research on his company is the lack of documentation regarding the business itself. So that has made me wonder. Even the web page only mentions throttle bodies. On the posts they represent themselves as cam designers/engine builders. But just kind of wonder why their page doesn't.

Just trying to get things cleared up for myself. I guess one could say the lack of professional information is due to the fact they are just starting up and trying to make a name for themselves. :dunno: Even the only number listed turns out to be (possibly) a residential number and not a business number. Again, they could be just starting. But still makes one wonder, or atleast makes me wonder.

I guess I'd just want to know if the company is not just buying shelf grind cams and marketing them as their own. If so - so be it. But if they portray them otherwise I guess one could then question how valid the rest of the statements they make are.
Well I wouldn't have a 3 year relationship making cams for Lloyd Elliot if all the cams were just renamed shelf grinds. He would probably find a cheaper place to get them if that was the case.

If you need info on Bauer Racing Engines, you need to contact Chemung County Clerks Office. There are many reasons why I don't just have mailing or phone info out there for the great unwashed. Mostly because I don't want to be bothered. It's hard enough getting done what needs to be done with just the things going on in the shop.

Honestly.... just like our old alter ego ChiTownHuster who just comes on here to bad mouth me I always wonder about someone whos only posts are in theads routed at trying to bad mouth me. Between you too I really do want to know who you really are and why the alter ego just to do this.... vilkata, you COULD be your own identity but the way this place works I find that hard to believe.

There is also a good number of people out there that you have never heard of that make people run. You might know WHO it is that sells their stuff but have no idea who it is who MAKES the stuff they run.

Bret
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Well this is some good stuff right here.... two funny things. At least I know you can read PMs AND edit your posts to suit your own agenda...

You say this....

Originally Posted by SS RRR
I received this information (even though I didn't ask for it) via PM from the flamboyant cam designer:
About me sending you a PM where I said this.... which I will admit I wrote. A few others have the same PM to view for themselves.

Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Other than that it's none of your ****ing bussiness who I work for.
Bret
Now you CLAIM that you never asked for credentials.... and looking thru your posts which you have control over that seems to be the case. Unfortuneately for you, you can't go back and edit quotes of your post...

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showp...&postcount=185

Originally Posted by SS RRR
I don't care too much either except when these LE/BRE heads/cam packages are running extremely dated numbers with inflated dyno numbers and the masses believe they have the best combo to date as well as a flamboyant cam grinder that still has yet to provide any kind of credentials other than dyno graphs, links to already copywrited articles, pictures of random engines and more dyno numbers.
That was the orginal text from post #183 in this thread.

So you did ask for credentials... which was BTW the title of the PM you recieved. Which gave you the answer to what you asked directly in the edited text. I'm sure you never double checked with the source that I gave you because that would have hurt your ego something badly to find out you are wrong.

What is amazing to me is that you will lie and change what you said to try and deface me.... unbelieveable. You really have no life. In fact this thread just shows the amount of time people can spend trying to bad mouth someone they have never delt with, other than being told they don't know their *** from a hole in the ground about technical information enough times that they obviously get their panties in a bunch.

Bret
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QUIK6
Ha..even the "great" Lingenfelter cams are ground by Comp...pull your head out alter ego and use your real screen name.
If you think its just an 'alter ego'. Ask on of the admis to check the IP that is being logged. I'll guarantee you its different from the others on here you think that I might be.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Ha..even the "great" Lingenfelter cams are ground by Comp...pull your head out alter ego and use your real screen name.
They are? I thought it was Accel... or is Comp affiliated with Accel now. I can never keep up. Regardless... even if the cams were ground by Comp Cams or Accel does that mean they designed them?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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How about some pictures of the Bauer Racing facility to silence all the critiques? I would love to see pictures of the place
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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I can't find anywhere in that thread ( http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=365375 ) that states that Kryckter's car is a stroker. From what I can tell, it's a stock rebuild stock cubed motor...?
LS1. We're talking about LT1's here. Apples to apples... There's no point in discussing LS1 setups in this thread. However, just like the LT1 setups.. what's so special about that LS1?

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Now you CLAIM that you never asked for credentials.... and looking thru your posts which you have control over that seems to be the case.
No.. what I CLAIMED is that I never asked for your place of business. You decided to volunteer that information all by yourself... or with the help of your dad... who knows. Try to keep up, Bret.



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