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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vilkata
So is the business run out of your home/garage? If so, do you actually grind your own cams or only design them? Have someone else grind them and put your name on them?

And this is at the (607) 732-5xxx number?
It's been posted a million times by a million people that Bret's / Lloyd's cams are ground by Comp.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTownHustler
Actually he has Comp cams grind the cams for him. He has no proprietary lobes just ones he mixes and matches out of the comp master lobe catalog. No back magic there just a little knowledge of valve events and how they effect an engines operation
So then the specialty is in the mix he uses?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
It's been posted a million times by a million people that Bret's / Lloyd's cams are ground by Comp.
So he doesn't design the cams, just picks them out?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vilkata
So he doesn't design the cams, just picks them out?
So you have been around for two years and haven't figured this out? Yeah he just picks one out of the thin air.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vilkata
So he doesn't design the cams, just picks them out?
I'm pretty sure you're well aware of what he actually does... I'm not sure why you're taking this as far as you are.

What's with all the hidden agenda new guys 'eh?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Let us know when your finished with the current set-up and have some track times. I'll bet we could have some more fun with that. You up for it?
Of course I'm up for it. What do you think it's going to accomplish if the engine does poorly? Is this were you'll have your shining moment and call me a hypocrite?
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I assure you there's nothing "shady" about my setup compared to anyone else's... I'm not sure if that's why you're implying I have better numbers than others.. ?
I haven't implied anything. Congratulations are in order though. You are the ONLY one on this forum who knows how to get a LE/BRE setup to work.
Originally Posted by vilkata
You get some interesting information (or lack there of) when searching for LLC, patent or other publicly available legal business information regarding "Bauer Racing Engines" as well. All I was able to find was a land line listed under Jon Bauer's name in Pine City, NY. But that appears to be a residence. :dunno:
The nearest business listing is a dba Bauer Motorsports in Syracuse, NY.
I received this information (even though I didn't ask for it) via PM from the flamboyant cam designer:
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Other than that it's none of your ****ing bussiness who I work for.
Bret
For some reason BRE is starting to remind me of the movie, The Wedding Crashers
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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SS You really are clever aren't you? You really should tell US about your current build. Maybe we can help you out. Gonna run faster than low 12s? How much you gonna spend this time? Think cubes are the answer? Inquiring minds what to know. Or at least I do.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
No offense, IMO, but street racing is a terrible way to judge the true power a car has..

The trap speed tells the story.
how so? IMO roll racing, if both cars start out at the begining of their respective power bands, definitely displays what a cars true power is. after the 1st 60' street racing and drag racing are the same basically. traction issues really screwed me up. I know some wheelspin will help out your trap speed but super excessive wheelspin is detrimental to it. I couldn't go wide open throttle at the track until 3rd gear (track prep was also awful.) I had to give it such little throttle that it shifted into 2nd before the 60' mark. if I tried to give it more gas it would downshift and spin. thats probably a big reason why I only trapped 113. when I raced the 480 rwhp sprayed TA that trapped 122, he didnt pull away from me like I trapped 113.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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SS You really are clever aren't you? You really should tell US about your current build. Maybe we can help you out. Gonna run faster than low 12s? How much you gonna spend this time? Think cubes are the answer? Inquiring minds what to know. Or at least I do.
"US" who? What group of people have you deemed yourself the spokesperson of? Seriously what angle of attack are you trying now?
Are you familiar with the search function? I am intrigued to know what your point is.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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For some reason BRE is starting to remind me of the movie, The Wedding Crashers
Are they the venture capitalists or the jam perserve moguls?
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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I haven't implied anything. Congratulations are in order though. You are the ONLY one on this forum who knows how to get a LE/BRE setup to work.
http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=423866
LE2 383 goes 12.18 @ 117.3 2.05 60'
Still cant get it to hook up on BFG's, time for some ET streets. This is still on the stock 10-bolt by the way w/ 3.42's. Cant wait to go 11's when i get a 12-bolt. The funny part is, this cam was designed for the 350 that was in the car b4, not bad for a cam smaller than a CC306.
http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=365375
I have been working on getting all the bugs worked out of my LE2 setup.
Last time dyno, was 400 RWHP and 361 RWTQ...This is on STOCK valves and beehive springs with the LE2 camshaft.
After I did some tuning and fine tweaking some stuff,
New numbers are 415 RWHP and 381 RWTQ.
Car feels amazingly fast.

I also took it to Houston Raceway Park, ran a couple of passes.
Best motor pass was a
11.7 @ 118
1.70 60 ft.
Had some issues with the nitrous system, WOT switch became loose and didn't hit nitrous in the top of 3rd or any of 4th
Still went 11.1 @ 128
No full numbers as the car is not legal to run those times, no fire jacket or 5-point harness....

Thanks again to Lloyd and Bret for all their help and outstanding customer service and providing an LT1 package that performs!!!!!!

Joseph
http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=434875
New times for LE 383.
Gentlemen,

I had a good night of racing last night at Carolina Dragway and I thought I would share my times.

1st run...1.68, 7.38 @ 95.21 1/8, 11.51 @ 118.53 1/4
2nd run...1.64, 7.35 @ 94.96 1/8, 11.49 @ 118.03 1/4
3rd run...1.61, 7.30 @ 95.12 1/8, 11.44 @ 117.98 1/4

You'll notice I slowed down even though I got quicker. Scanmaster showed 4* KR on last 2 runs. False K that is.

I've yet to nail it off the line for fear of breaking my stock 7.5, cause let me tell you, these 255/50/16 M/T DR's hook like a $20 prostitute.

Dean
http://64.65.63.61/forums/showthread.php?t=464905
First time out w/ new combo, car goes lean after 5400 (needs bigger injectors) so i was only shifting @ 6000 first pass was 12.8 @ 108 w/ 2.0 60', missed fourth gear then got back into the throttle. Second pass , hot lapped took it off the line at idle again 2.0 60' 12.35 @117, clutch slips alittle when hot lapped only in 3rd and 4th, next pass tried to take it off the line at 3500, burned tires through 1st ran 12.33 @ 117.9 again w/ a 2.0 60', hot lapped it but sat in the lanes for a bit, did nasty burnout to get the BFG DR's hot, took it off the line @ 2500 spun 3/8 the way through 1st squirmed when i hit second clutch barely slipped into 3 and 4 ran a 12.18 @ 118.7 w/ a 1.965 60'. I was pretty happy with the times and was pretty fun beatin up on the LS1's. Track was def. slippery as my buddy's car that runs consistant 12.80's could only muster 1 12 sec pass at a 12.98 rest were like 13.0's and 13.1's. TEmp was about 85 when we got there and about 78-80 after the sun went down, fairly high humidity. So theres alot more in it
theres 3 more. I know they're strokers but regardless it shows that lloyd and bret put out fine combinations.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
So you have been around for two years and haven't figured this out? Yeah he just picks one out of the thin air.
Been around - but haven't payed attention to this until now really.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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theres 3 more. I know they're strokers but regardless it shows that lloyd and bret put out fine combinations.
Perhaps for you it does, for me? Not so much. It proves how these combos can run times that have been run many many many many many times before on other popular setups from years past. Doesn't prove anything how the flamboyant cam designer is just that good like he likes to claim. This has already been covered in the thread.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
I'm pretty sure you're well aware of what he actually does... I'm not sure why you're taking this as far as you are.

What's with all the hidden agenda new guys 'eh?
Actually - I'm not quite aware of what he does. Thus, the questions.

And no hidden agenda, I've asked before if there have been any independent tests done to confirm or deny the claims. Granted there are a lot of posts that support the quality - but seem to be just as many that counter such. I guess one could even read this thread to see that. I'd imagine that there are many more for both sides.

One thing I've found while trying to do research on his company is the lack of documentation regarding the business itself. So that has made me wonder. Even the web page only mentions throttle bodies. On the posts they represent themselves as cam designers/engine builders. But just kind of wonder why their page doesn't.

Just trying to get things cleared up for myself. I guess one could say the lack of professional information is due to the fact they are just starting up and trying to make a name for themselves. :dunno: Even the only number listed turns out to be (possibly) a residential number and not a business number. Again, they could be just starting. But still makes one wonder, or atleast makes me wonder.

I guess I'd just want to know if the company is not just buying shelf grind cams and marketing them as their own. If so - so be it. But if they portray them otherwise I guess one could then question how valid the rest of the statements they make are.
Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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"US" who? What group of people have you deemed yourself the spokesperson of? Seriously what angle of attack are you trying now?
Are you familiar with the search function? I am intrigued to know what your point is.
The group that finds you very intertaining. I could go on, but that one sentence alone should be enough for you and your wit.



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