Street cam with torque(full precise details)
Why are we so concerned about web-sites and credentials? I purchased my Lloyd Elliott heads before he ever had web-site. And ordered my heads knowing full well there were other people that had more porting experience. But for what I was paying and for what I could have payed going with someone else, lets just say it goes back to the saying, the most bang for the buck.
Months later, before my heads were installed, Joe O. teamed up with Lloyd and sold some cams. I was lucky enough that Lloyd agreed to let me purchase one, since I had recently purchased a set of heads. This is an emissions cam about the size of a Hotcam. Am I breaking new ground with this, no. That was not the purpose. Am I fairly quick for what it is, yes. Does it drive almost stock, yes. And now that the 3600 stall is installed, which by the way, drives like the 2800, I should be in the high 11s. I'll be very happy with that considering I was shooting for mid 12s. Why mid 12s, when other people have gone faster with less? I don't usually have that kind of luck. So for me, I have surpassed what I was hoping for. The only thing is, as it usually goes, thats not fast enough. So since I recently sold off some used and new parts, I will be ordering a plate system from Nitro Daves, and see if a 100 shot will put me in the low 11s.
One last thought. If Bret had been specing cams back then for Lloyd, I would be running one of his. And I have talked to and bought parts from him, and will continue to do so, whenever necessary.
Months later, before my heads were installed, Joe O. teamed up with Lloyd and sold some cams. I was lucky enough that Lloyd agreed to let me purchase one, since I had recently purchased a set of heads. This is an emissions cam about the size of a Hotcam. Am I breaking new ground with this, no. That was not the purpose. Am I fairly quick for what it is, yes. Does it drive almost stock, yes. And now that the 3600 stall is installed, which by the way, drives like the 2800, I should be in the high 11s. I'll be very happy with that considering I was shooting for mid 12s. Why mid 12s, when other people have gone faster with less? I don't usually have that kind of luck. So for me, I have surpassed what I was hoping for. The only thing is, as it usually goes, thats not fast enough. So since I recently sold off some used and new parts, I will be ordering a plate system from Nitro Daves, and see if a 100 shot will put me in the low 11s.
One last thought. If Bret had been specing cams back then for Lloyd, I would be running one of his. And I have talked to and bought parts from him, and will continue to do so, whenever necessary.
i would just like to hear some examples of unhappy customers, so post em, with all the hate you have for him you surely must know of some unhappy customers
Why not have this thread deleted?...it's a free advertisement as you call it.
The thread link I posted to LS1Tech has been deleted, and while it did contain happy customers, who's voices were silenced arbitrarily, it also contained warnings that BRE's set up's come with a caveat. Supreme Court justices use a scale method to determine matters of public opinion, I guess we know what side weighed more. The court by the way typically includes this idea known as ethics.
Notably, one poster on there alleged criminal impropriety! It's certainly true that the allegation may be unfounded, but now that it's been deleted, we may never know. If someone publicly accused my business of commiting a criminal act, I would remedy the problem, or at least explain the actual events on how such information was posted erroneously; but that's just me.
At least the sheeple can rest assured that "for the record", there's no unhappy customers. In literary terms, you would be classified as a flat character.
Censorship is great!
EDIT: My role in this thread is to promote disinterested information. If it turned out that the poster in question falsely accused Bret or erroneously posted such a public statement before trying to resolve the matter informally, I would be on here defending Bret. Because the allegation can not be explored or resolved, we'll just pretend the matter never came up.
The thread link I posted to LS1Tech has been deleted, and while it did contain happy customers, who's voices were silenced arbitrarily, it also contained warnings that BRE's set up's come with a caveat. Supreme Court justices use a scale method to determine matters of public opinion, I guess we know what side weighed more. The court by the way typically includes this idea known as ethics.
Notably, one poster on there alleged criminal impropriety! It's certainly true that the allegation may be unfounded, but now that it's been deleted, we may never know. If someone publicly accused my business of commiting a criminal act, I would remedy the problem, or at least explain the actual events on how such information was posted erroneously; but that's just me.
At least the sheeple can rest assured that "for the record", there's no unhappy customers. In literary terms, you would be classified as a flat character.
Censorship is great!

EDIT: My role in this thread is to promote disinterested information. If it turned out that the poster in question falsely accused Bret or erroneously posted such a public statement before trying to resolve the matter informally, I would be on here defending Bret. Because the allegation can not be explored or resolved, we'll just pretend the matter never came up.
Because I am unable to get a real court to grant certiorari, I have taken it upon myself to submit this case of alleged criminal impropriety to the BRE kangaroo court.
Here’s an excerpt of the trial:
SS MPSTR: Your honor, the state would like to show that BRE was accused of taking $700 from a customer abroad, and not sending him the promised intake manifold. The victim alleges that his Private messages and e-mails went unreturned and restitution was never made. Furthermore…(cut off)
Dangalla: Your Honor! At this time I would like to motion for an immediate dismissal.
Judge: Under what grounds counselor?
Dangalla: The defense has just learned that the tread at LS1Tech has just been deleted, thus no crime has occurred and all customers are happy.
Judge: Does the state have any objections to this motion?
SS MPSTR: What you talkin’ bout willis?
Judge: Your motion is granted counselor.
SS MPSTR: What about the truth?!
Judge: SS MPSTR, you are dangerously close to a rule 11, I will not tolerate objective inquires! The thread was deleted. Now get back under your bridge!
Dangalla: Your Honor, the defense respectfully request for the transcripts to be sealed and the thread at CZ28 to be locked…
i have to admit, that ^^^ really made me laugh
and i do remember reading about the mentioned thread, and i dont think that what happened is right, but i guess since the thread was deleted........
thats one point for you, this i will not argue, one unhappy customer, although nothing to do with his cams one unhappy bre customer none the less
and i do remember reading about the mentioned thread, and i dont think that what happened is right, but i guess since the thread was deleted........
thats one point for you, this i will not argue, one unhappy customer, although nothing to do with his cams one unhappy bre customer none the less
It's true... ignorance is bliss. "Put up or shut up..."
That's one of the more genius angles yet. Were any of Jim Jones' followers not satisfied w/ his leadership before they "drank the kool-aide?" How Heaven's Gate? Do you understand yet?
112mph out of a stroker with a LE/BRE setup... are you kidding me.....
That's one of the more genius angles yet. Were any of Jim Jones' followers not satisfied w/ his leadership before they "drank the kool-aide?" How Heaven's Gate? Do you understand yet?
112mph out of a stroker with a LE/BRE setup... are you kidding me.....
edit** HOW IN THE HELL is high altitude an excuse? I do not understand how you would expect to run what you would at low altitude at high altitude. And they have already bashed me at least once in this thread, that is when they put in the clarifying "No excuses" ****. I am sorry that I do not run at low altitude but that doesnt mean my car isnt running good. That is the only point I am trying to make you cant say "so everyone at low altitude that runs with LE heads/cam that has a good 60' and......." how long is the list of "excuses" and where does the line end? No wonder you cant find many "good running" cars, because you expect them to be perfect everything.
Last edited by 96LT1TX; Jul 29, 2007 at 01:19 PM.
High altitude, that's your excuse? Hold on, I'm sure someone will be by shortly to bash you too.
Lets see, the cracked guides, the valve float that resulted in taking out my new $250 lifters, which might have taken out my cam (havent pulled it out yet), how the runners cc'd out to 217-218cc's instead of 205 like advertised, and all the downtime that I have. And if I had some customer service like what AFR did when they got a bad batch of valves, what TSP does when they had issues with their heads, what comp is doing to people who had engine damage as a result of the 918's I wouldn't be as upset. If you are happy running LE heads and have no issues keep running them I'm not saying never buy LE products or anything like that. I'm just posting my results instead of hiding behind a rock so the information is out there so people can make an educated choice.
but was the problems your having due to the cam? were you not happy with the cam? from reading your past posts i did not think that was the case
EDIT: My role in this thread is to promote disinterested information. If it turned out that the poster in question falsely accused Bret or erroneously posted such a public statement before trying to resolve the matter informally, I would be on here defending Bret. Because the allegation can not be explored or resolved, we'll just pretend the matter never came up.
ROFLMAO!
You remind me of Ellsworth Toohey, and also of what gives lawyers a bad name. Good thing for you that you aren't one.
Go to the horse's mouth once again and ask Pro Stock John why the thread Bret Bauer Cam was deleted. The request certainly didn't come from this end, and I doubt PSJ did it to preserve Bret's "reputation".
<----- low altitude looser

You will post anything no matter how stupid it makes you look just as long as you think it betters your failing cause.
I have just been sickened by this thread where you constantly talk about "only 3 good running LE combos" when there are far more you just wont accept it because you dont understand high altitude racing I guess? who cares.
Well my valve springs were toast after 4k miles (lost 14-28lbs), but I'm not a valvetrain expert so I can't say if that was from the cam, cracked guides, or some other variable.
You've obviously jumped right into the middle of this w/out doing any sort of thorough reading. If your car runs well, take a drive to the Texas Motorplex one weekend. It's roughly 700ft. ele. That should tell you how well you do. If there are more than three cars on this site that have run comparible times to Javier and the two others... where are they?


