Don't be upset with me because you chose to spend your money with a guy with no performance resume. It's your money - do what you please with it.
So you have an awesome engine combo - good for you. Any timeslips? Your engine isn't what the request for credibility is even about, but I'm interested nonetheless. Do you race in any sanctioned event, endorsed by anybody who matters, or are you a closet street racer who can't talk because the street racing community is secretly lurking to see what your bad-*** combo really consists of? And my accomplishments aren't even important or relevant to the discussion, as I have never come on here running my mouth (keyboard) to state that I'm the best at anything. You want to talk arrogance and cockiness, you don't need to look any further than your boy Bret. His retarded rhetoric speaks for itself.

Again, like Brent requested earlier regarding names, my screen name is SS MPSTR.

At this point, I'd accept a humble statement from him that essentially states the obvious - that there are no credentials and there are no masses of engines doing anything remotely special to distinguish him from the thousands of other guys building engines for a living. He is not an expert in this field. His ego won't let him though, and we all know it.

 

Good point - it doesn't always revolve around drag racing only, but you're in the minority in this forum on this site. I agree about the car capaibility comment - but unfortunately, unless BRE is setting up race suspensions now, the argument isn't relevant. I'd lay big money down that a properly set up car with a good driver, with less HP would smoke you. That's not a jab or a bash - it's reality and I'm sure you recognize that.

 

Wow, I can't believe I actually read all 7 pages of this thread. Yeaaaahhh for me!

BTW, I just bought a cc503 cam in a car that will be road raced with a little street driving mixed in. So to mix up the conversation a bit, any comments on how this cam will be in my stock headed car with 1.6 RR's, PAC 1518 springs and all the other accouterments that go with a valvetrain install?

 

I'm just glad that you two do so much advertising for me....

I forgot I just woke up and realized that this motor doesn't exsist...

600 HP STREET LT1

Hang in their John you already have your "invisible wonder woman motor"

Bret

 

That's a little overkill on the springs. The 1215's would be fine.

 

You know its funny,i have a cousin who has started building alot of engines that work very good.His own car runs high 10's which he runs on pump gas and drives it more than i drive my camaro.Now such a car may not be that rare where most of you guys live but it is very rare here where i live because the car hobby is fairly small.But even though the stuff he builds is very fast for this region there are still alot of guys who try to say that he does not know what he is doing when it comes to building engines.The point i am trying to make is that no matter how good bret may be there will always be someone trying to tear him down.As far as the arguement that some of the LE stuff only runs 110-114mph.Well thats simple,you can give someone everything they need to run fast but if your not there to set the car up properly you really can't be held responsible for it not running to its full potential.

 

Do you realize road racing is 100x harder on springs than drag racing?

 

I don't quite understand your point. Credentials are asked for and a picture of some random engine is posted... Yeah that'll show 'em by golly!

I'm well aware of that argument, but I don't buy it for a second. Espcially with the vast numbers of setups that are on this site doing below average results. Javier is the ONLY one that has run what is to be expected. Speed_Demon has run impressive mph (however they weren't LE heads ). So two examples out of the however many?

 

I know we've gotten way off topic, but the main reason I went with who I went with when looking at H/C upgrade was track results, not dyno results...I do think that LE and Bret have done good for the LT crowd by offering packages when other companies are concentrating on LS series stuff, but I can't argue with track times/mph vs. dyno numbers...I have said over the years that dyno numbers are just numbers and the real measure of the hp is trap speed...but as stated before, not everyone cares about drag racing...

I also think that the target customers of Bret/LE tend to be more recreational cruisers/streeters who like to have fast fun stuff, but not necessarily race their cars...I wanted to have a great street car that could run the number/mph when called to do so regardless of what the dyno says and thats why I picked who I picked...They offered up track times/mph of customer's combos with proven set ups and thats what I wanted...

Not all of us have the same goals and the nice thing about this hobby is that we can choose to use whomever we feel like using...As far as I'm concerned if the customer is happy with what he/she gets, then so be it....

Oh and I still say the CC503, LPE 219/219, or 211/219 would be great for the OP to use...

--Alan

 

Well said ABA383. Why can't someone just enjoy their ride and not worry about how it can,would ,or might compare to everybody's else's cars. I know by human nature we all what to be king of the hill. But, with a car like mine, win ,lose ,or just out crusing, its been a heck of a RIDE!!!!!

 

OP (always faster) posted his choice a dozen or so posts back.

Just my opinion, but I don't think the majority of the folks posting/reading this forum and modifying their LT1s are predominately doing them for drag racing, as was suggested earlier. Taking it to the track occasionally, but driving daily like it's their only vehicle, may be 50% or more. If it is, that's a ton of money being spent NOT on racing. If one is in business to make money, serving and satisfying a large number of customers isn't a bad way to go. Marketing 101.5: satisfied customers are you best salespeople, and it doesn't cost you much. Marketing 101.55: having the silent but satisfied (as opposed to Silent But Deadly ) customers speak out by bashing their engine guy also generates more business.

If winning is so important, who's winning in this instance? I suspect always faster will be satisfied (a winner), and others have followed suit because of this thread (more winners).

There are folks who spend as much money on their driver's/cruiser's engines as dedicated, but perhaps less funded racers. They may even have more powerful engines, and not want to publish the dyno sheets, or even reveal their track times if they occasionally do organized (legal) racing. That is a not-so-small market. Here again word of mouth is helpful. One downside is that successful street racers (I hear that still goes on and for money!) don't discuss who helped them. They are usually loyal, however. That's just what I've heard, and I have no sworn statements to back it up.

 

Ooops!!! Hahahaha, guess I missed that in all of this hooplah!!!! Well, then, 'nuff said...

--Alan

 

Interesting theories... So the good results are out there, but they aren't being published because of variables like those who can't drive, can't put their combos together, show no interest in drag racing or they just don't want to share their fantasmic results on the interweb.
... or are these excuses... Whatever they are it's a bunch of horse ****.

And yes.. there is no such thing as bad PR. You all seem to think you are saying something significant. If people want to spend thousands of dollars on a product and choose not to be informed then that is their choice. Look how well the air foil sold just because some dolt tried it out and swore it was beneficial. It's like one of those "Would you also jump off a cliff if your friends did too?" speech your mother gave you years ago.
Bottom line... see sig.

 

SS RRR - I see your points, but how many Hot Cammed, 305'ed, 503'ed, etc. cars do you see also, that are running mid 13's.

Everybody wants to be a mechanic.

And I am willing to bet that MANY of the problems come from assembly issues, valve lash, poor compatability ( There was a SLOW LE1 set up a few months back, then it came out that he was on stock manifolds ... ), not degreeing the cam, etc.

 

I never stated anything about those cams being some performance marvel. That's not the point. The point is we have an individual who believes he has achieved Smokey Yunick status with... what?
Wait a minute... degreeing a cam? Was this a BRE cam? Doesn't BRE guarantee their cams to be spot on? I'm confused...
Like I said... I can see some problems being blamed on the installer, but there comes a time when a line must be drawn and questions asked. There has been ONE person who has done well ET/MPH wise with a LE/BRE setup out of all those combos that have been sold and installed by members of this site. What gives?