Why do YOU need any credentials when everyone already know that nothing Bret shows you or proves to you will sway your opinion? Why do you deem your self to ask for any credentials or anything when YOU aren't the one that is interested in utilizing his services? Thats my point, nothing more. I agree that someone interested in having others do work for them should get references, but why should Bret go out of his way to publicly show you or anyone else that isn't interested in his work? Especially since you and some others have already been trying to pick any of his work or logic apart?

My comments should get the weight they deserve, since I see first hand the work that goes out the door from Bret. I have no problem doing business with him, and thats not because he's my friend....I know his credentials, and I deem him qualified to help me with my car. Also for what its worth the Company that installed the BRE cam, and dyno tuned it were quite impressed with Brets cam....and I would say they were quite skeptical at first. They use another well known guy for spec'ing their custom cams.

 

Easy there... before you start running off with your own response or answer let at least me answer. It's quite the opposite. I only care about 400+rwhp dyno numbers if that combo goes to the track and runs 110 to 115mph. That's where I start wondering WTF is going on and I've seen it all too many times on this very site. Years ago it used to be people would post the ET and sometimes the dyno numbers. Now it's just dyno numbers and absolutely no ET's and if you do see them the dyno numbers just don't make a lick of sense compared to the ET's. So no.. I don't believe the dyno numbers are being inflated. What I do believe is that the care given to keep a dyno calibrated has fallen by the wayside since most anyone will believe whatever a "credible" shop with a chassis dyno tells them. I would not believe this if I would see more examples of Javier's car.
You can see the pictorial proof in the Comp R thread. I've even stated in that thread just how gosh golly darn lucky I am. Do you think the members of this board along with myself are the only ones who've used the Comp R's? Be realistic.
Why are you making this so dramatic? First off the pushrods are $40 before shipping. Secondly at least try to be accurate with your accusations. I stated the pushrods I used WORKED for MILD APPLICATIONS such as the 211 cam and LT4 hotcam. They worked. Period. There's no sensationalizm about it.
No beating my chest about it. Again with the sensationalizm. I am just simply stating what my very mild heads/cam combo ran 7 years ago to prove that, contrary to the cam grinder's and many members on this board, the LE/BRE is nothing different than any other reputable heads/cam combos that are available. I've already covered this in the thread. I shouldn't be one of the fastest with a stock block. For Christ sakes I should be the SLOWEST! If you want to be involved then by all means please read thoroughly before asking questions that have been answered.

 

I do understand what you are saying here and completely agree. Perhaps just like money, 400rwhp just isn't what it used to be....J/K!! There are multiple reputable dyno's that have shown the 400+rwhp numbers though, and theres a multiple of people who still don't run the times they are capable of. Funny you mention Javier, I was thinking of doing the same. I will be on to that in a second... What I have noticed is the people going fast with Heads/Cam packages regardless of porter/manufacturer, etc is the same people that went fast with minimal mods before this stage. For example, my good friend Javier ran 12.0 with an off the shelf cam...but this wasn't some instant thing I assure you. It took time and tweaking to do that, his first results were far from impressive if I recall correctly. There are others as well that would reflect this theory as well. Now I am not trying to make excuses but some come right here after running there first time at the track with the new Heads/Cam setup and talk about a low 12@112mph....and they would get the usual response. Thats poor for 400rwhp, and your right it maybe....but about progression. Many of these same people that did this haven't returned to track to try to run better, they haven't updated or tweaked there setup to run better numbers either. These setups may not be tweaked to perfection but I have seen many that are happy because they have knocked .5 of there ET, and picked up 5+mph from the times they ran before but they still get told how poorly their car is performing. SS RRR did your car perform flawlessly and set that best your boast about on the first outting? If not please share some real world info and let us know what it did run.

I am not saying that your lying, I said you are lucky. Tons of people besides myself have had them fail, regardless. They do fail, and perhaps some are from user error....but from what I have seen its not in the majority.

I know what you stated, it was more mainly a joke. I stated my opinion that for 2x that price I could have a far superior pushrod, and in the scheme of it all that cheap and alittle added insurance. Again I'm glad yours worked for you, my cheap hardened pushrods did not.

Yours was fast for 7 years ago, and certainly not the norm. I never claimed that the LE/BRE was different then any other reputable heads/cam combo, and I once again agree with you. Your car ran good like I said, and is still good by todays standard. If more people could make there car run as well as you, that would be considered slow I'm sure.(some sarcasm, but quite serious)

 

Pretty much. I had a dyno tune by Ed Write(sp) which I'm not even sure helped since my MPH was exactly the same as before the tune when I had a cheezy hypertech with the "Yes I screwed you and made you spend money not only on this pointless gizmo, but the $200 'cam cartridge to boot! HA HA..." Ed's dyno graph sure said I went from 350rwhp to 370, but I surely didn't see it in the traps (keep in mind this was while I still had stock exhaust/pre-LT headers. The true 370rwhp came after adding the LT's w/ the same EW tune and that was a 110 to 114 with 4.10's to 115 with 3.73's).
The only snafu I had was gearing. I put in 4.10's because "everyone else was.." and all said it'd be better for launching. Boulderdash. I changed to 3.73 gears and saw a vast improvement. Went from 12.2's @ 114 to 12.0's @ 115. All because I was now able to stay w/in my power band.
Other than the above, yes the car has been aboslutely consistent. I got my money's worth and may get it again depending on how these LPE heads do on my new engine.
I don't believe I ever accused you of saying LE/BRE was the best of the best. I'm just stating my observations of what I've seen on this board. We can both agree on the mediocrity. If people would get combos that weren't so god damned tedious and were actually proven by more than one person then there wouldn't be a problem. I can't think of a single company that has offered heads/cam packages for the LT1 getting as much flak as LE/BRE. Maybe AFR when they were selling worthless porting for their cylinder heads, but no one that was used and had good results. Has the intelligence level changed from a few years ago to now? Sure the parties and their constituants can function under the dilusion that it's "free advertising" or great for business. Whatever floats their boat. We both agree so we have nothing else to debate.

 

I suppose painful litigation involving intellectual property rights and corporate espionage have been really pervasive in the camshaft industry.

I too would like to see some documentation to back up said claims. My current LT1 stroker engine was just completed by an individual with an accomplished resume for building numerous record setting performance engines. He is also a crew chief, and just set another national record with a motor he built.

For example:

This is known as begging the question.

The banter, while comical, avoids answering a direct question posed by "SS MPSTR". Either provide evidence, or cease to brag. Pouring water down our backs and telling us we're sweating serves only to strain credibility of the one making the claims.

 

Again why are you so interested in his credentials? SS MPSTR is here to cause problems nothing more, he has given no valuable information in any of his posts, he is here to stir the pot. I'm happy that your happy with your stroker, thats super. You aren't going to spend money with Bret, so nobody including Bret cares what your or SS MPSTR want....get my point?

 

What about people who as of yet, are still undecided?

 

Haven't you been reading?! You don't need to know any details because here's the proof below. Stop asking objective questions.


SS MPSTR might support a certain person on the East coast, but the last time I checked his website, he had a LONG list of customers to back up his claims, and that list does not include customers who want to keep their names/set up's private. As long as you "deem" your buddy qualified to work on YOUR car, then that should satisfy the multitudes of others here who might want to know something beyond a hollow endorsement.

BTW- a typical mark of a scam is that you must "pay first" in order to get the "inside" scoop. Anyone want to get a side job stuffing envelopes?...you need to pay first for them to know you're serious. Not to compare your buddy to this analogy, it just happened to come to mind.

 

I'm confused on who should port my stock LT heads! I feel my stock heads if ported will be good with the LT4 H/C I've had in my car for about a year now.
PLEASE HELP ME decide who should port my heads.

 

Umm...this thread doesn't really have a whole lot to do with head porters. Do a search and do some reading. There's plenty of info out there to be able to make an educated decision.

 

what value are you looking for?? don't misconstrue my intentions because you fail to see or acknowledge the value in the question.

 

Its not my place to tell credentials or anything else for Bret, If He doesn't want to then do I need to? I didn't claim that because I am confident that everyone else should be, nor do I care if You think any more or less of Bret. I could care less about who you or your friend support, what I do care about is this message board getting filled with Threads that turns into pissing contest because of statements by SS MPSTR, and others who would like to call them out because they don't like Bret/Lloyd or there packages. If you didn't first run a LE package or cam from Bret then how do you know if what you have is better? BTW for everyone just catching up, SS MPSTR is an AI customer that ran mediocre times at best with a slew of excuses of why it ran poorly....he would also fall into the category that SS RRR would be faster then with less power. For everyone else Bret Bauer is not the only one who spec's cams and won't give out specs until you buy it, in fact just about every good custom cam guy that I contacted before Bret did the same thing....so the scam comment doesn't hold water. Also there are others out there that have LE packages, with help from Bret & Joe O that ran good times. There are more then just 3-4 just take some time and look around.

 

Call him or email him and see for yourself, do you really need some internet punk to pry the info for you? When you want to purchase something you should always do research and call different vendors and see which YOU feel most comfortable with. You also have to take what many say on here with a grain of salt, many are making claims about a product they never have had. The 2 biggest porters that are debated here are LE/AI, and with results you'll find that the customers of each are very happy with the products, with some exceptions of course for both.

 

Me as well as MANY others don't see value in almost all your posts. Most of the times you come off as in internet punk trying to stir the pot, plain and simple. I would see some sort of value in your question if infact it was a genuine question, whereas instead I know that you feel he doesn't have credentials nor does have any knowledge. You have stated that you know Phil from Ai, so perhaps your theories and comments about who is better should be taken with the weight they deserve? I also have heard Phils/Rons thoughts on the whole LE/BRE vendors, so it doesn't surprise me by what your thoughts are...you know being there friends and all!

 

What does any of this have to do with the question that has been asked? Internet punk