Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by bossco
Fear of the unknown and the strange obsession with the need for a camaro to be an over achiever in every catagory. I wonder what this forum will be like when or if the F5 comes out?
My guess?
Week one - Ohh my gawd, they did it! yipee
Week two - F5 snobbery and F5 envy
Week three - satisfaction, but if I could just change one thing
Week four - Damn they arent supposed to have these kinds of problems with a brand new car
Week five - I've just done my first mods, this car is quick as hell from the factory and even quicker when I did this.
Week six - Hey guys what do you think about that chrome tape I just put on my coil packs and throttlebody! Looks good doesn't it!
Week seven - GM is stupid as hell for making that widget like that, I broke two making back to back passes, but the fix is in the mail, just wish it didn't cost me XXXX.XX
Week eight - Well I really like the new car, but it just doesnt bring a grin to my face like my old trusty X-gen, so I'm gonna sell it and by a XXXXXXXXXXX.
Week nine - Man I need to do something about the looks of my car, everybody has one now
Week ten - holy crapcino, did you read that, I should have waited to buy my F5 until they came out with the super F5, I wonder if I can get a good deal on a trade in or sell so I can get the super F5.
Week eleven - screw you guys, the F5 is just fine the way it is, if you want that just go buy a XXXXX
My guess?
Week one - Ohh my gawd, they did it! yipee
Week two - F5 snobbery and F5 envy
Week three - satisfaction, but if I could just change one thing
Week four - Damn they arent supposed to have these kinds of problems with a brand new car
Week five - I've just done my first mods, this car is quick as hell from the factory and even quicker when I did this.
Week six - Hey guys what do you think about that chrome tape I just put on my coil packs and throttlebody! Looks good doesn't it!
Week seven - GM is stupid as hell for making that widget like that, I broke two making back to back passes, but the fix is in the mail, just wish it didn't cost me XXXX.XX
Week eight - Well I really like the new car, but it just doesnt bring a grin to my face like my old trusty X-gen, so I'm gonna sell it and by a XXXXXXXXXXX.
Week nine - Man I need to do something about the looks of my car, everybody has one now
Week ten - holy crapcino, did you read that, I should have waited to buy my F5 until they came out with the super F5, I wonder if I can get a good deal on a trade in or sell so I can get the super F5.
Week eleven - screw you guys, the F5 is just fine the way it is, if you want that just go buy a XXXXX
. Think more along the lines of the gates of hell being opened up, and then you might be getting close. 
-Mike
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by MarineReconZ28
Ummm... Well.... Uhhh... Im not really sure... But did I miss something, or does 1+1 still = 2?
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
There's no chassis. The car is least 4 years out. The martian don't know squat about how heavy this thing will end up.
This car will end up at least as heavy as the Mustang GT. Which would be heavier than a 4th gen.
This car will end up at least as heavy as the Mustang GT. Which would be heavier than a 4th gen.
Last edited by MarineReconZ28; Sep 6, 2005 at 12:04 AM.
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by guionM
A GTO with an LS2 isn't outperforming a 02 WS6 with an LS1?
It's nice to have enthusiasm about a WS6, but you are DEAD WRONG!! GTO is a high 4 second car to 60. WS6s run 5 flat on a good day. To top it off, a live axle is better at transmitting power than IRS, which makes it even more dramatic.
It's nice to have enthusiasm about a WS6, but you are DEAD WRONG!! GTO is a high 4 second car to 60. WS6s run 5 flat on a good day. To top it off, a live axle is better at transmitting power than IRS, which makes it even more dramatic.
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Red Planet
Don't be ridiculous......
What would I know???
What would I know???
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Chewbacca
Solstice and Sky. Both are very nice and tempting but don't have enough under the hood to quite win me over (previous or current 1968, 1991, 1996 Camaro owner here).
Corvette. Yeah, I want one bad but will probably be well into middle age until I can afford one.
Miata, S2000. See Solstice and Sky.
Boxster. See Corvette, Solstice and Sky.
Do you even know what these cars are really meant to do? Those low profile tires and six speed trans aren't intended for 1/4 mile work. The twin piston brakes and front sway bar have no purpose in acceleration contests.
Are you aware of the original Z/28's purpose in life?
Sorry. I'm crabby tonight.
Are you aware of the original Z/28's purpose in life?
Sorry. I'm crabby tonight.
- Distinctively modern aerodynamic styling for a clean functional appearance
- Small, highly maneuverable size with packaging for four passengers
- A very broad range of available performance capability
- Quick, sharply defined roadability with a firm, yet comfortable ride
- "Cockpit-type" interiors for close driver identification
- An evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, basic design approach to maintain maximum value to the customer
- Wide Selection of mechanical and appearance equipment to allow customer tailoring to his needs and desires'
The original purpose of the Z28 has homologation for Trans Am racing. These cars were defined as four passenger "sedans" with a wheelbase of 116". http://www.amx-perience.com/TransAmRacing1968.htm
Randy
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
There's no chassis. The car is least 4 years out. The martian don't know squat about how heavy this thing will end up.
Pass the matches Red.
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Good grief. Things like this leave no doubt as to why Scott would want to turn himself into the Human Tiki Torch when he visits this site.
Pass the matches Red.
Pass the matches Red.
I'm just glad Red still sees fit to visit the site.
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by rlchv70
Add turbo or blower.
Originally Posted by rlchv70
Buy a used one.
Originally Posted by rlchv70
Add turbo or blower (or V8 conversion http://www.v8miata.com/Monster_V8_Kit.asp)
Originally Posted by rlchv70
Buy a used one, add turbo or blower.
Originally Posted by rlchv70
Camaro's purpose:
The original purpose of the Z28 has homologation for Trans Am racing. These cars were defined as four passenger "sedans" with a wheelbase of 116". http://www.amx-perience.com/TransAmRacing1968.htm
Randy
- Distinctively modern aerodynamic styling for a clean functional appearance
- Small, highly maneuverable size with packaging for four passengers
- A very broad range of available performance capability
- Quick, sharply defined roadability with a firm, yet comfortable ride
- "Cockpit-type" interiors for close driver identification
- An evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, basic design approach to maintain maximum value to the customer
- Wide Selection of mechanical and appearance equipment to allow customer tailoring to his needs and desires'
The original purpose of the Z28 has homologation for Trans Am racing. These cars were defined as four passenger "sedans" with a wheelbase of 116". http://www.amx-perience.com/TransAmRacing1968.htm
Randy
Where does heavyweight, straightline muscle car fit in there?It doesn't.
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
guionM I have a lot of respect for your opinion I have been on this board for a number of years but I am just making a statement from my experience. Don't get me wrong the GTO is an outstanding performing car the seats are sooo comfortable. I used it as an example of a car that if made lighter in 2005 would be faster than a car built in 2002. I am not talking more refined. Thanks Bob 
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Chewbacca
Not going to happen. I buy new cars (and trucks). Haven't bought used in at least 15 years.
Exactly. Where does heavyweight, straightline muscle car fit in there?
It doesn't.
Where does heavyweight, straightline muscle car fit in there?It doesn't.
Remember, we want the Camaro around for a LOONNNNGGGG time. It must have broad, affordable appeal and be profitable for GM. This means we have to have some compromises.
Those compromises can be overcome with aftermarket parts: shocks, springs, sway bars, tires, carbon fiber body panels, remove rear seat, spare tire, etc. If it has enough in common with Sigma, you could even transfer its aluminum suspension components over.
Randy