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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

Just looked bigger. Fat, wide body, chunky wheels and fender flares, larger face. Looked like it would tip the scales at an easy 3900lbs.
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Why do people think the '05 Mustang is too big?
I rented one for 3 days, it wasn't that big, seriously....
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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I'm going to hold back my thoughts untill I see something and get some real numbers in front of me.
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

Originally Posted by 90rocz
Why do people think the '05 Mustang is too big?
I rented one for 3 days, it wasn't that big, seriously....
The overhangs, the relative height of the car, etc. presents a much bigger looking car but really, as you said, it is not as big as it looks.
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
I hope that Charlie is full of it
You always say that....yet it never comes true.
Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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I know....and its depressing.
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
The overhangs, the relative height of the car, etc. presents a much bigger looking car but really, as you said, it is not as big as it looks.
i finally get to jump in on this "Mustang is HUGE thing"

my neighbor had some friends over this weekend. one of them has a 67 Camaro SS. the other has a slightly lowered 05 Stang. the Stang is not that much bigger. try it for yourself one day guys. it really isn't THAT big, just looks it.
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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The STS-V does have a 469hp supercharged northstar.............
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
And finally...I think it is ok to disagree with someone, even if that someone is at the top of the ladder (perceived or real).


You are the man, Bob.
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

Wow peeps chill out. I cant believe there are actually people here whining "I WONT BUY THIS CAR I HAVENT SEEN YET BECAUSE PEOPLE ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD ARE SAYING IT MIGHT BE TOO HEAVY!!!!!!!"



How about we wait until we see something here in January before we start blasting it? Amid all this doom and gloom about weight two points have been brought up by Guy and Charlie that I like the most:

-Expect the most powerful, most rigid Camaro with an interior better than any F-bodies to date

-The car has to be built to handle godawful amounts of power.

And then you have Red telling us how much GM cares about weight and fuel economy.

Concerning this "phantom car", thats all the info I think I need to hear at this point!
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

turbo96z28......it really isn't THAT big, just looks it.
Exactly, the high doorlines, high trunk-line, the rear overhang(that makes it a real "pony-car", the Muscular Hood rounded and bulging....etc.
It looks tall, but as I said, I BOTTOMED OUT easily on speed bumps that my IROC would'nt blink at!...Those tall, thick doors make it look huge and heavy...optical illusion..
I'd welcome some weight, (some..)given it helps structural rigidity, so if I want to make 500-600-or more HP, I won't have one corner of the car sitting an inch and a half higher off the ground, after a couple of runs.. (Unidodies of old..)
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Thanks red for jumping in. i feel better.
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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I would rather a big looking car. When i think of a muscle car, i think of a big car with some big power. When i hear pony car, i think of the two hundred some odd cubes rinky-dink first gen mustangs.
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

Originally Posted by dav305z
It's not desperate, it's business. The Mustang is selling well, so why would Chevy release something with a completely different formula?
Before I really start on this, let me restate something. The Mustang NAME is a high-volume seller in this day and age. Period. As long as they kept the name, the little horse-and-flag badge, a V8 option, and it a two-door(or maybe quad), it is going to sell well. The retro theme is a success because it was applied to an already super-successful car.

Now, on to the real argument,
It's called taking a chance and having trust in your design team. Chrysler did it with their LX cars, and look at their success. If GM doesn't have the ***** to step up to the plate with a truly revolutionary car, instead of a five-year-old copycat(since the basic design has already been said to have been set in stone, this is a definite), then they don't deserve my business. Great, if it's a success, maybe they can do something nice with the sixth gen.

Now, since we have ~5 years to go, maybe my tastes can can change. You never know what can happen in that kind of period of time. But if the car came out right now, I would not buy it.
Old Sep 5, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....

Don't really see what the big hang-up is with weight.

Convertibles generally weigh more than coupes. Trans Ams generally used to weigh more than Formulas or "regular" Firebirds. Cars with big blocks weigh more than those with small blocks. Guess what.....people still bought/buy them.

Is a couple hundred pound difference going to cause people not to buy a 5th Gen? Of course not. Jeez people, be frickin' happy there's even talk about a 5th Gen coming out and stop getting your panties in a wad over the possibility it may be a little heavier.

Besides, I think it's safe to say that putting an LS2 in instead of an LS1 will more than offset any POSSIBLE weight gain.

As long as a 5th Gen doesn't outweigh the 4th by 400-500 lbs who gives a cr@p??



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