Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Red, you seem very confident in the performance and looks of the car...After looking at the z06, and now seeing the numbers that car can stomp down...I'm starting to get excited. 
P.S. please check your PMs

P.S. please check your PMs
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Alright lets settle the Retro vs non Retro debate. Red, let me see some pics, maybe take a prototype for a drive and then I tell everyone if it is OR isn't Retro.
PS-Scott PM me with directions/location where I can drive the car.
-Thanks
PS-Scott PM me with directions/location where I can drive the car.
-Thanks
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Alright lets settle the Retro vs non Retro debate. Red, let me see some pics, maybe take a prototype for a drive and then I tell everyone if it is OR isn't Retro.
PS-Scott PM me with directions/location where I can drive the car.
-Thanks
PS-Scott PM me with directions/location where I can drive the car.
-Thanks
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by turbo96z28
what...no winkie???
Last edited by 91_z28_4me; Sep 7, 2005 at 01:31 PM.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Retro or modern, slightly heavy or less weight, personally as long as it's a Camaro and it stays in production, i'm happy. I haven't liked every single generation Camaro, so if I dont like the 5th gen, it doesnt mean I'm going to be a sell-out and "go buy a Mustang." How about we quit bitching about whether or not it's retro and just be thankful GM heard our call and is bringing the Camaro back?
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by meissenation
How about we quit bitching about whether or not it's retro and just be thankful GM heard our call and is bringing the Camaro back?
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Red Planet
Wouldn't it be grand if the design had flavors of all four generations in it????
PS- Sounds alot like the popular third gen retro car, doesn't it? Atleast to me it does.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Z284ever
- Most engineering/design parameters are already "locked in" at this point.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
- It will be larger and heavier than I had hoped and had petitioned for.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
- You'd better have an affection for 1st gens.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
- Expect the best interior, most power, best structural rigidity in Camaro history.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
- January will provide a tease only. As you can imagine, you must "freeze" an ongoing design exercise at some point, if you are going to present a show ready exhibit by January.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
- Just like the original Solstice concept, Buick Velite, and Opel Insignia....expect what's under the skin to bear no relevance to the real car.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Wait... didn't they stop making Camaros? Did they restart the line already? I missed something...
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Toko
Wait... didn't they stop making Camaros? Did they restart the line already? I missed something...
Originally Posted by Toko
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
Originally Posted by Toko
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
I cant even tell you how wrong that statement is... Do you know the definition of monopoly..?Australia's domestics are killer, that ill give ya.
Originally Posted by Toko
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Toko
Wait... didn't they stop making Camaros? Did they restart the line already? I missed something...
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Dude, what exactly in the hell are you talking about?
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by RussStang
Dude, what exactly in the hell are you talking about?
when he tells you what the hell he is talking about, please PM me with the knowlege.
that was some clueless ramblings.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Toko
Wait... didn't they stop making Camaros? Did they restart the line already? I missed something...
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Re: Reality check on the 5th gen reality check.....
Originally Posted by Toko
Wait... didn't they stop making Camaros? Did they restart the line already? I missed something...
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
Personnelly, I'd like to see a camaro the size of a volkswagon beetle, the old 60's ones... and the engine int he middle of the car, better handling, better accelation. Like the porache 911. And All wheel drive would be something different in a camaro...
But it's GM, they make allot of cars, have a nice monopoly on the car business, they couldn't really care how much effort is put into the camaro... Chevy was only self owned for five years before GM bought it... But I heard GM really made a nice push with the new Holden Moneros, have you seen them? Really awesome cars, Australia's Domestic car, packs a punch, with the ASR can floor it in first and not screech a tire but still get a real kick in the seat. Monero's history is very close to camaro, if you look back at the 60's ones they look kinda like a camaro, and had about the same power.
another rant... wish they sold things like Holden and Fiat here in the US, would really spice up the competition on the street.
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