I never said anything about there being an existing track pack for the Camaro. I think you try to dig a little too far into my posts just so you can disagree with me, without even reading what I wrote. I said "If both cars were to be equipped with a track pack..." Then went on to suggest a few items to include in a Camaro track pack. If you had been reading the thread, there has been a lot of discussion about what the Camaro would have to do to respond and take the performance lead away from the Mustang after the 2011 GT is released. IF the Camaro got a track pack similar to the one the Mustang gets, I feel they would be just about dead even in many performance categories.

Why would I just make up a GM performance release???

By the way...
Did you hear about the the twin turbo 8.4L they're putting in the new Aveo?

 

The more I read about this car, the more I like it. The Mustang will be my next new car purchase. Even the interior blows away the current Camaro and Challenge.

 

I'm pretty impressed that the new 5.0L makes peak torque of 390 ft-lbs. at only 4,000rpm. That is 600rpm lower than the LS3 in the Camaro. However, it is 30 ft-lbs. less torque and we need to see the overall torque curve, but it sounds pretty impressive. I also like that it can rev to 7,000 rpm.

The big question marks left for me are weight and traction. What will be the overall weight, front to rear balance, and wheel/tire size? Those things will determine just how well this car performs.

Wheels and tires are not that critical to me as they can be easily changed with aftermarket stuff. I am more interested in the weight and balance.

 

latest is:

BASE CURB WEIGHT (POUNDS)
Manual transmission 3,603 (est.)
Weight distribution (f/r) 54/46 (est.)

 

I'm glad they fixed that. So about a 75 pound gain +/-. The auto is 3658 (presumably the 6R80 weighs more than whatever they were using earlier).

Still 250 pounds lighter than the Camaro SS.

I wonder if the auto will be quicker and/or faster than the manual.

 

i doubt it. it weighs more and the manual has lower gearing

 

If 3603 lbs is correct, then there will be some word eating going on here....assuming those parties will admit it.

 

Not really. 1st gear with the auto is 3.15x4.17=13.13, while 1st gear for the manual is 3.31x3.6=12.11.

It'll be a good race.

 

There were some people, (mostly on other sites), who were nearly orgasmic at the thought of Mustang catching up to Camaro in weight. I'll be checking their subsequent posts over the next day or so...

 

They were happy for a day then, as the 1st version of the specs listed 3875 Manual / 4000 Auto. Now they are sad.

 

Sad to say it, but this will be an all around better car than the Camaro. The interior looks much nicer too, which is an added bonus. In a year or two when everyone and their mother has one, this will be a great bang for your buck low mileage used pickup. Get it with the Brembo's and all you need are wheels, tires, CAI, and a tune. Then just drive and enjoy.

Good job Ford. I hope GM responds, but unless it is something like a Track Pack it will probably not be for another year or two.

 

Competition improves the breed.

 

I have to agree.

Combine this with the upcoming lighter and more powerful SVT Boss, the revised GT500, the rumored addition of the 2.5L EcoBoost as base motor, and some other stuff - well, I just don't know what this Camaro can do to compete.

 

And I consider those people nothing more than fanboy anti-enthusiasts. The real enthusiast sees the competition and wants his favorite brand to get BETTER.

The anti-enthusiast sees no flaws in his favorite brand and just hopes that the competition gets WORSE.
Those are sad, pathetic, unmotivated people in my book...

 

I say stop BSing and call out some names, way more interesting that way. 3600-3650 what do I win?

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