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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

Originally Posted by CMSDave
No, everyone that has signed up had been told that their card wouldn't process until the ten orders were met.
At the moment the ten orders were met, Ben would receive a call on how many to ship to me.
At the exact same time I receive the shipment, we box them and they are gone, and everyone is billed.
Anything after ten orders would be placed to AS&M by the 6th.
When you call someone's GP irresponsible, you need more than assumption on what has transpired.
I have also asked everyone that has placed an order what their setup is in hopes of them not going in over their head or buying something not necessary.
Not every detail of every transaction is going to end up on the board here for approval.
Dave, so we are all set, 10 orders are in? When should i expect to see mine (I live in MA).
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

Originally Posted by RealQuick
Just about every TB needs modification (whether its IAC or TPS sensor).
Quick, can you explain to me why that is necessary. I'm making an attempt to find out why, from the source. A reread of my previous posts will reveal that.

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If you want a monoblade and you know there may be an IAC issue, then research the fix for yourself.
I know EXACTLY what the fix is. I have for a couple of years. Again, do you know why this has not been resolved/corrected by mfr.? Obviously, no one here knows, that why I'm going to the source. Is there anything wrong with getting some facts?

Originally Posted by RealQuick
Just because Dave at CMS or anyone at AS&M can't answer the question, doesnt mean its a crap product. I need one whether or not the company selling it knows the issue. I'll worry about it myself for the $70 savings.
That is probably what AS&M figures. Why bother correcting the issue, when it will sell, regardless.

Originally Posted by RealQuick
Arnie - I am not taking shots at you, rather stating my position because i need a monoblade and i am excited about the opportunity to get one with a discount.
No problem with that. Others are as well.
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Arnie,

I dont know why the IAC issue hasnt been resolved because like you i have seen posts about it in the past. the only thing I know is that there have been documented fixes (I'll check my favorites menu on my computer at home) and those fixes seem to work if you want a monoblade.

As far as other manufacturers like Holley (sticking blades and needing the TPS adjusted) and BBK needing the TPS adjusted. These are things that alot of us have learned to live with. We shouldnt have to, but we are in a such a hurry to get are cars going we cant wait on the manufacturers. Kind of like give me a nickle now or a quarter tomorrow, sometimes we go for the nickle now
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

Originally Posted by CMSDave
When did this become an irresponsible gp?.......When you call someone's GP irresponsible, you need more than assumption on what has transpired.
Where the HELL did I post that the (this) GP is irresponsible? You're a funny guy, Dave. You also read as well, as some of the guys that have posted in this thread. If you are gonna accuse someone of something, you'd better have your $hit together. As I edited in a previous post, I was actually backing you up. :shaking head: If you are not gonna bother (or have the time) to catch up on relevant previous posts, have the respect to at least ask for a clarification, if you are unsure.
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

Originally Posted by RealQuick
Dave, so we are all set, 10 orders are in? When should i expect to see mine (I live in MA).
No, that was a theoretical example in explaining the situation.
We are still at 9 and I have about four maybes.
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by arnie
Is this a GP, or a GP of 10.....period? Why order 10, then order 2 or 3 later. Once 10 is reached, set a date/time limit, THEN place the complete order. That is how a responsible GP is conducted.
As if to say it is not a responsible GP?
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

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Arnie,

I dont know why the IAC issue...... Kind of like give me a nickle now or a quarter tomorrow, sometimes we go for the nickle now
That is human nature. I'm on list as well. However, if I'm gonna get one, what is wrong with getting one that does not need mods to function as oem?
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

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As if to say it is not a responsible GP?
In politics, that would be labeled 'putting a spin on it'.
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

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In politics, that would be labeled 'putting a spin on it'.
I pm'd you for clarification then.
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

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That is human nature. I'm on list as well. However, if I'm gonna get one, what is wrong with getting one that does not need mods to function as oem?
There is nothing wrong with that. We'll be waiting along time is the only problem
Old Aug 2, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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Tenth order just came in.
I'm going to call everyone to confirm their info and then I will be getting a hold of Ben.
Any TB ordered from now and until the 6th probably won't ship until 8/11.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

Here's Jordan's photo's and experience with the monoblade... apparently there was an idle issue from a plastic fitting, although I havn't heard this from more recent sources so it may have been a freak 1-time thing, or AS&M improved the retention design since then http://fastblackcar.com/camaro/monob...emanifold.html

Here's a nice shot of the monoblade on a custom intake manifold: http://www.worldisround.com/articles/12201/photo70.html

As for the idle circuit issue? I dunno, I'm almost positive though that this a manufacturing thing that some aftermarket designer "thought" would be fine for the LT1, and would allow the plenum-feed to be an idle for other GM engines that don't have a dedicated idle passage. Unfortunately the LT1 may still regulate the flow through the idle circuit, but dumping it into the front of the plenum makes for unequal distribution... especially considering the firing order differences in each bank.

Not a big deal, but it may be just a manufacturer convience for expanding their market... I dunno. Fixable though. (BTW, the 58mm AS&M is probably the only LT1 TB available that doesn't need this fix... very nice piece of work)

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:41 AM
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Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP

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Not every detail of every transaction is going to end up on the board here for approval.

Did you okay this with arnie?? tisk tisk if not!


Glad to see the shiny TB's will be getting sent soon
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Thats good enough for me. Im ordering it tomarro.
Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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so dave when are the initial 10 orders going to be shipped out? im ready to see this work of art

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