Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by CMSDave
No, everyone that has signed up had been told that their card wouldn't process until the ten orders were met.
At the moment the ten orders were met, Ben would receive a call on how many to ship to me.
At the exact same time I receive the shipment, we box them and they are gone, and everyone is billed.
Anything after ten orders would be placed to AS&M by the 6th.
When you call someone's GP irresponsible, you need more than assumption on what has transpired.
I have also asked everyone that has placed an order what their setup is in hopes of them not going in over their head or buying something not necessary.
Not every detail of every transaction is going to end up on the board here for approval.
At the moment the ten orders were met, Ben would receive a call on how many to ship to me.
At the exact same time I receive the shipment, we box them and they are gone, and everyone is billed.
Anything after ten orders would be placed to AS&M by the 6th.
When you call someone's GP irresponsible, you need more than assumption on what has transpired.
I have also asked everyone that has placed an order what their setup is in hopes of them not going in over their head or buying something not necessary.
Not every detail of every transaction is going to end up on the board here for approval.
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Just about every TB needs modification (whether its IAC or TPS sensor).
Originally Posted by RealQuick
If you want a monoblade and you know there may be an IAC issue, then research the fix for yourself.
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Just because Dave at CMS or anyone at AS&M can't answer the question, doesnt mean its a crap product. I need one whether or not the company selling it knows the issue. I'll worry about it myself for the $70 savings.
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Arnie - I am not taking shots at you, rather stating my position because i need a monoblade and i am excited about the opportunity to get one with a discount.
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Arnie,
I dont know why the IAC issue hasnt been resolved because like you i have seen posts about it in the past. the only thing I know is that there have been documented fixes (I'll check my favorites menu on my computer at home) and those fixes seem to work if you want a monoblade.
As far as other manufacturers like Holley (sticking blades and needing the TPS adjusted) and BBK needing the TPS adjusted. These are things that alot of us have learned to live with. We shouldnt have to, but we are in a such a hurry to get are cars going we cant wait on the manufacturers. Kind of like give me a nickle now or a quarter tomorrow, sometimes we go for the nickle now
I dont know why the IAC issue hasnt been resolved because like you i have seen posts about it in the past. the only thing I know is that there have been documented fixes (I'll check my favorites menu on my computer at home) and those fixes seem to work if you want a monoblade.
As far as other manufacturers like Holley (sticking blades and needing the TPS adjusted) and BBK needing the TPS adjusted. These are things that alot of us have learned to live with. We shouldnt have to, but we are in a such a hurry to get are cars going we cant wait on the manufacturers. Kind of like give me a nickle now or a quarter tomorrow, sometimes we go for the nickle now
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by CMSDave
When did this become an irresponsible gp?.......When you call someone's GP irresponsible, you need more than assumption on what has transpired.
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Dave, so we are all set, 10 orders are in? When should i expect to see mine (I live in MA).
We are still at 9 and I have about four maybes.
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by arnie
Is this a GP, or a GP of 10.....period? Why order 10, then order 2 or 3 later. Once 10 is reached, set a date/time limit, THEN place the complete order. That is how a responsible GP is conducted.
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Arnie,
I dont know why the IAC issue...... Kind of like give me a nickle now or a quarter tomorrow, sometimes we go for the nickle now
I dont know why the IAC issue...... Kind of like give me a nickle now or a quarter tomorrow, sometimes we go for the nickle now

I'm on list as well. However, if I'm gonna get one, what is wrong with getting one that does not need mods to function as oem?
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by arnie
That is human nature.
I'm on list as well. However, if I'm gonna get one, what is wrong with getting one that does not need mods to function as oem? 
I'm on list as well. However, if I'm gonna get one, what is wrong with getting one that does not need mods to function as oem? 
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Tenth order just came in.
I'm going to call everyone to confirm their info and then I will be getting a hold of Ben.
Any TB ordered from now and until the 6th probably won't ship until 8/11.
FYI
I'm going to call everyone to confirm their info and then I will be getting a hold of Ben.
Any TB ordered from now and until the 6th probably won't ship until 8/11.
FYI
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Here's Jordan's photo's and experience with the monoblade... apparently there was an idle issue from a plastic fitting, although I havn't heard this from more recent sources so it may have been a freak 1-time thing, or AS&M improved the retention design since then http://fastblackcar.com/camaro/monob...emanifold.html
Here's a nice shot of the monoblade on a custom intake manifold: http://www.worldisround.com/articles/12201/photo70.html
As for the idle circuit issue? I dunno, I'm almost positive though that this a manufacturing thing that some aftermarket designer "thought" would be fine for the LT1, and would allow the plenum-feed to be an idle for other GM engines that don't have a dedicated idle passage. Unfortunately the LT1 may still regulate the flow through the idle circuit, but dumping it into the front of the plenum makes for unequal distribution... especially considering the firing order differences in each bank.
Not a big deal, but it may be just a manufacturer convience for expanding their market... I dunno. Fixable though. (BTW, the 58mm AS&M is probably the only LT1 TB available that doesn't need this fix... very nice piece of work)
Here's a nice shot of the monoblade on a custom intake manifold: http://www.worldisround.com/articles/12201/photo70.html
As for the idle circuit issue? I dunno, I'm almost positive though that this a manufacturing thing that some aftermarket designer "thought" would be fine for the LT1, and would allow the plenum-feed to be an idle for other GM engines that don't have a dedicated idle passage. Unfortunately the LT1 may still regulate the flow through the idle circuit, but dumping it into the front of the plenum makes for unequal distribution... especially considering the firing order differences in each bank.
Not a big deal, but it may be just a manufacturer convience for expanding their market... I dunno. Fixable though. (BTW, the 58mm AS&M is probably the only LT1 TB available that doesn't need this fix... very nice piece of work)
Last edited by Steve in Seattle; Aug 2, 2004 at 10:16 PM.
Re: Arizona Speed And Marine TB GP
Originally Posted by CMSDave
Not every detail of every transaction is going to end up on the board here for approval.
Did you okay this with arnie??
tisk tisk if not!
Glad to see the shiny TB's will be getting sent soon


