the reason why a new Camaro wont happen til 2008 .
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Originally posted by guionM
I see, and again you are making some good points.
But just to add, I think that a person who is about to become married to GMAC or their local bank for the next 5 years who want's a sports car will do a bit of homework & know what they are looking for in a car. I'll easily admit that a majority of buyers probally don't care if their car is FWD or AWD, or is under the conception that FWD is safer, but I feel they probally know which wheels are driving their car. But simply because they are looking for a sports car I think separates them from those who are using Consumer Reports magazine to decide for them.
I see, and again you are making some good points.
But just to add, I think that a person who is about to become married to GMAC or their local bank for the next 5 years who want's a sports car will do a bit of homework & know what they are looking for in a car. I'll easily admit that a majority of buyers probally don't care if their car is FWD or AWD, or is under the conception that FWD is safer, but I feel they probally know which wheels are driving their car. But simply because they are looking for a sports car I think separates them from those who are using Consumer Reports magazine to decide for them.
Either way my point of all this is that due to differences in model line GM dealers sold the F-body in a much less aggresive posture than Ford sells the Mustnag...which makes me wonder if it wasn't that they couldn't sell them..but more that they didnt want to.
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Originally posted by formula79
I know once you are car smart how hard it is to think car dumb. Most women who know the difference between FWD and RWD won't have a RWD car because they are brainwashed into thinking they are unsafe. I think back in the days of teh third gen and before these same women buying Grand Ams and SUV''s because they are safe and FWD or AWD would have been buying F-bodies. The Mustang i have noticed is the exception..it seems to be every girls goal to have one...especially the girls I went to school with.
Either way my point of all this is that due to differences in model line GM dealers sold the F-body in a much less aggresive posture than Ford sells the Mustnag...which makes me wonder if it wasn't that they couldn't sell them..but more that they didnt want to.
I know once you are car smart how hard it is to think car dumb. Most women who know the difference between FWD and RWD won't have a RWD car because they are brainwashed into thinking they are unsafe. I think back in the days of teh third gen and before these same women buying Grand Ams and SUV''s because they are safe and FWD or AWD would have been buying F-bodies. The Mustang i have noticed is the exception..it seems to be every girls goal to have one...especially the girls I went to school with.
Either way my point of all this is that due to differences in model line GM dealers sold the F-body in a much less aggresive posture than Ford sells the Mustnag...which makes me wonder if it wasn't that they couldn't sell them..but more that they didnt want to.
But just to offer a different perspective, my sister went from a Cavalier (bought new when she was 21) to a Mustang V6 (at age 25) to a Camaro V6 (age 34). She made up her mind she wanted a sports car with a t-top (and she got sick of Ford's screwups), so Camaro was it. It's jet black, headlight covers, and a 5 speed stick with manual windows & seats, and she's looking to bypass the speed governer (she lives in Arizona). She joking calls it her "stud magnet". At least one of her friends bought one sine then (also over 30).
I'm sure everyone has a different view on this, but I suspect women aren't too different from us. If they want a particular car, they'll get it. Over a third of Camaro buyers are women, while Mustang runs about 38%, not alot of difference. But the whole point is moot anyhow, because when you add up how many men buy Mustangs vs Camaros, we'd probally cry.
There is a sizable age difference between Camaro & Mustang buyers, and that is easily noticed on the street (at least out here in Cali).
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I think it's pretty well known that looks are the #1 thing that is considered when someone buys a car...
1) Does it look good ?
2) Does it look fresh and new
I think Camaro and Firebird met criteria #1, but lack of freshenings, and the fact that the car was already old... hurt it badly.
1) Does it look good ?
2) Does it look fresh and new
I think Camaro and Firebird met criteria #1, but lack of freshenings, and the fact that the car was already old... hurt it badly.
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