Interesting read on American cars and trucks......
Coming from someone who obviously doesn't post often, I'm flattered that you actually took the time to post such an insightful comment but apparently, you don't know how to recognize a joke.
Last edited by Robert_Nashville; Dec 28, 2006 at 04:56 PM.
Whether you guys like it or not, foreign companies are here to stay. And no matter how you deny it, they contribute to the economy. They may be hurting the big 3, but I think they are helping the economy more than hurting it. Without them, the domestic cars' quality would not have improved and we may still be stuck in the 80's quality of cars. Im a patriot, but I will not buy a car I dont like w/ my hard-earned money just so I could help my country, and I think no one here will either. I can help my country in other things, but when it comes to cars, its my business. I will buy all the imports I want if I think its better than what the domestics offer. Thats democracy at work.
Im a patriot, but I will not buy a car I dont like w/ my hard-earned money just so I could help my country, and I think no one here will either. I can help my country in other things, but when it comes to cars, its my business. I will buy all the imports I want if I think its better than what the domestics offer. Thats democracy at work.
I suppose some form of "self-preservation" comes into effect as long as you are ASSURED of certain death in a reasonable time frame, huh? The only true difference is that your sentence will be years in the coming, and years in duration when it comes to economic despair and depression. BFD.
"I am a patriot, but I will not... help my country... and I think no one here will either."
Well, you're extremely WRONG on that one friend! I WILL... and DO.
You know, another great thing about our country is that you are free to leave it anytime. Japan is "democratic"... move there. So is Germany. and Pakistan. and Iraq. Go live in some of these places for a while, and you will see that what we have is worth saving, not pissing away for short-term gains.
Personally, I am getting fed-up of being the only one bailing water on this sinking ship... all of the naysayers standing on the upper deck looking off into the horizon think everything's just hunky-dory, while a scarce-few of us down in the engine room and the bilges are working like hell to keep things afloat, engines running, and "us" moving ahead. I wish the dead wood would jump-off... it'd make the work SO much easier for those of us trying to make things right.
If GM (or any other "domestic" automaker) wants to take some sort of high ground in this argument, let's see them make a commitment to purchasing components from US suppliers; after all, suppliers account for far more jobs than the OEMs themselves. Then we can start engaging in a conversation about where the vehicle is screwed together and "where the profits go". Until then, this discussion is nothing more than mental masturbation.
Personally, I am getting fed-up of being the only one bailing water on this sinking ship... all of the naysayers standing on the upper deck looking off into the horizon think everything's just hunky-dory, while a scarce-few of us down in the engine room and the bilges are working like hell to keep things afloat, engines running, and "us" moving ahead. I wish the dead wood would jump-off... it'd make the work SO much easier for those of us trying to make things right.

Hemlock is supposed to taste GREAT, and it can be bought cheaper than many wines.... you care to have a glass of that because it tastes better and costs less?
I suppose some form of "self-preservation" comes into effect as long as you are ASSURED of certain death in a reasonable time frame, huh? The only true difference is that your sentence will be years in the coming, and years in duration when it comes to economic despair and depression. BFD.
"I am a patriot, but I will not... help my country... and I think no one here will either."
Well, you're extremely WRONG on that one friend! I WILL... and DO.
You know, another great thing about our country is that you are free to leave it anytime. Japan is "democratic"... move there. So is Germany. and Pakistan. and Iraq. Go live in some of these places for a while, and you will see that what we have is worth saving, not pissing away for short-term gains.
Personally, I am getting fed-up of being the only one bailing water on this sinking ship... all of the naysayers standing on the upper deck looking off into the horizon think everything's just hunky-dory, while a scarce-few of us down in the engine room and the bilges are working like hell to keep things afloat, engines running, and "us" moving ahead. I wish the dead wood would jump-off... it'd make the work SO much easier for those of us trying to make things right.
I suppose some form of "self-preservation" comes into effect as long as you are ASSURED of certain death in a reasonable time frame, huh? The only true difference is that your sentence will be years in the coming, and years in duration when it comes to economic despair and depression. BFD.
"I am a patriot, but I will not... help my country... and I think no one here will either."
Well, you're extremely WRONG on that one friend! I WILL... and DO.
You know, another great thing about our country is that you are free to leave it anytime. Japan is "democratic"... move there. So is Germany. and Pakistan. and Iraq. Go live in some of these places for a while, and you will see that what we have is worth saving, not pissing away for short-term gains.
Personally, I am getting fed-up of being the only one bailing water on this sinking ship... all of the naysayers standing on the upper deck looking off into the horizon think everything's just hunky-dory, while a scarce-few of us down in the engine room and the bilges are working like hell to keep things afloat, engines running, and "us" moving ahead. I wish the dead wood would jump-off... it'd make the work SO much easier for those of us trying to make things right.

Keep buying some of those products - many of them put money in my pocket, and the pockets of the folks employed on our factory floor. The world ain't quite so simple anymore, in so many ways that we stand virtually no chance of listing them all on this forum (much less agreeing on their relative importance).
If GM (or any other "domestic" automaker) wants to take some sort of high ground in this argument, let's see them make a commitment to purchasing components from US suppliers; after all, suppliers account for far more jobs than the OEMs themselves. Then we can start engaging in a conversation about where the vehicle is screwed together and "where the profits go". Until then, this discussion is nothing more than mental masturbation.
If GM (or any other "domestic" automaker) wants to take some sort of high ground in this argument, let's see them make a commitment to purchasing components from US suppliers; after all, suppliers account for far more jobs than the OEMs themselves. Then we can start engaging in a conversation about where the vehicle is screwed together and "where the profits go". Until then, this discussion is nothing more than mental masturbation.
it might be mental hand minipulation also
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Try checking where the computers you're typing on are made first before you guys start preaching...and make sure never to eat japanese and chinese food too coz its not American...oh, the gunpowder was invented in China, maybe our soldiers should not be using guns....Even the idea of patronizing locally made only is not entirely American, the Chinese and Japanese did it before and it didnt work. And all thats left of it is the great wall of china.
Seriously, no matter how you look at it, there is no such thing as 100% american made, it may be the design, the raw material, labor or whatever...something came from some place else. So stop being hypocrites. Pay your taxes and obey the law, thats the best way to help the country.
Seriously, no matter how you look at it, there is no such thing as 100% american made, it may be the design, the raw material, labor or whatever...something came from some place else. So stop being hypocrites. Pay your taxes and obey the law, thats the best way to help the country.
Yeah...most people say they were joking after they are called on it! You're a legend in your own mind!
More imports!!!! Yippeee!!!! Japans vehicle exports steadily rising to now record numbers. Japan's most profitable automotive market is the United States. It's been stated here many times the revenue $$$$ doesn't flow back to Japan. 
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=42534
What are the benefits here? Is this another plus of the global economy?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=42534
What are the benefits here? Is this another plus of the global economy?
Last edited by Derek M; Dec 29, 2006 at 08:51 AM.
Try checking where the computers you're typing on are made first before you guys start preaching...and make sure never to eat japanese and chinese food too coz its not American...oh, the gunpowder was invented in China, maybe our soldiers should not be using guns....Even the idea of patronizing locally made only is not entirely American, the Chinese and Japanese did it before and it didnt work. And all thats left of it is the great wall of china.
Seriously, no matter how you look at it, there is no such thing as 100% american made, it may be the design, the raw material, labor or whatever...something came from some place else. So stop being hypocrites. Pay your taxes and obey the law, thats the best way to help the country.
Seriously, no matter how you look at it, there is no such thing as 100% american made, it may be the design, the raw material, labor or whatever...something came from some place else. So stop being hypocrites. Pay your taxes and obey the law, thats the best way to help the country.
arjainz, let me stop you before you start. What you stated has been said in may difrent forms of one or another in many of the past threads. It is not so much about the American culture or obeying the law and paying your taxes. More of what made this country great, the blue collar workforce the lifeblood of this country is shrinking and the mentality of it is its okay..It is very hard to buy something now a days and flip it over and see something other than made in china on the back. Very hard, that is the argument.Or buying from an import car company is no diffrent. that is what this and others have argued about sure they make great products, cars, widgets. But why sell your soul of ingenuity, passion and history for what made this country what it is. To some it doesnt make a diffrence. Some it does.
Last edited by Caps94ZODG; Dec 29, 2006 at 08:47 AM.
The problem is, these people who do not see a problem with buying a foreign car; they have nothing to gain or lose in buying these foreign cars. Their jobs, their livliehoods, their families' welfare isn't dependent on the sale of an American car. It doesn't affect them. Out of site, out of mind. But when these people buy foreign cars, it put just one more small nail in the American auto industry's coffin.
And as an employee of the American auto industry, I resent the fact that you people don't care about the American auto industry. That means that you don't care about me or my family or any of the other millions of people or families who are related to the American auto industry. Every time that you buy a foreign car, you're taking food out of all of our mouths. Every time you buy a foreign car, you're making it more and more likely that any of us in the industry will be laid off and may have to look to the government for help (unemployment benefits, etc). So in effect, buy buying a foreign car, you're possibly putting a bigger burden on this country's taxpayers. Way to go!
But in your own little selfish world, it doesn't matter. Because when you buy a Toyota, you don't lose your job.
I wonder how many of these people would buy foreign if it directly affected them negatively?
And as an employee of the American auto industry, I resent the fact that you people don't care about the American auto industry. That means that you don't care about me or my family or any of the other millions of people or families who are related to the American auto industry. Every time that you buy a foreign car, you're taking food out of all of our mouths. Every time you buy a foreign car, you're making it more and more likely that any of us in the industry will be laid off and may have to look to the government for help (unemployment benefits, etc). So in effect, buy buying a foreign car, you're possibly putting a bigger burden on this country's taxpayers. Way to go!
But in your own little selfish world, it doesn't matter. Because when you buy a Toyota, you don't lose your job.
I wonder how many of these people would buy foreign if it directly affected them negatively?
Hemlock is supposed to taste GREAT, and it can be bought cheaper than many wines.... you care to have a glass of that because it tastes better and costs less?
I suppose some form of "self-preservation" comes into effect as long as you are ASSURED of certain death in a reasonable time frame, huh? The only true difference is that your sentence will be years in the coming, and years in duration when it comes to economic despair and depression. BFD.
"I am a patriot, but I will not... help my country... and I think no one here will either."
Well, you're extremely WRONG on that one friend! I WILL... and DO.
You know, another great thing about our country is that you are free to leave it anytime. Japan is "democratic"... move there. So is Germany. and Pakistan. and Iraq. Go live in some of these places for a while, and you will see that what we have is worth saving, not pissing away for short-term gains.
Personally, I am getting fed-up of being the only one bailing water on this sinking ship... all of the naysayers standing on the upper deck looking off into the horizon think everything's just hunky-dory, while a scarce-few of us down in the engine room and the bilges are working like hell to keep things afloat, engines running, and "us" moving ahead. I wish the dead wood would jump-off... it'd make the work SO much easier for those of us trying to make things right.
I suppose some form of "self-preservation" comes into effect as long as you are ASSURED of certain death in a reasonable time frame, huh? The only true difference is that your sentence will be years in the coming, and years in duration when it comes to economic despair and depression. BFD.
"I am a patriot, but I will not... help my country... and I think no one here will either."
Well, you're extremely WRONG on that one friend! I WILL... and DO.
You know, another great thing about our country is that you are free to leave it anytime. Japan is "democratic"... move there. So is Germany. and Pakistan. and Iraq. Go live in some of these places for a while, and you will see that what we have is worth saving, not pissing away for short-term gains.
Personally, I am getting fed-up of being the only one bailing water on this sinking ship... all of the naysayers standing on the upper deck looking off into the horizon think everything's just hunky-dory, while a scarce-few of us down in the engine room and the bilges are working like hell to keep things afloat, engines running, and "us" moving ahead. I wish the dead wood would jump-off... it'd make the work SO much easier for those of us trying to make things right.

So now you are saying buy American only or leave the country?

I currently have 2 foreign cars in my driveway in a house that was built by an international company not owned in the USA. It does not matter to you the house and car were built here. I am your worst nightmare!
Last edited by 2MCHPSI; Dec 29, 2006 at 09:23 AM.



