2013 GT500 Base MSRP = $54,995
05-22-2012, 10:52 PM
#316
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Re: 2013 GT500 Base MSRP = $54,995
God, these heavy-*** new cars are disappointing.
I was enamored with both the 5th gen and the GT500 when each came out. I appreciate the sheer insane amounts of power these cars are making from the factory. But this getting ridiculous.
Mid 11's with a motor that is closing in on 700hp at the flywheel...700 F*%#ing horsepower and you are running mid 11's! Congrats...you built a mkIV Supra
( I kid, I kid)!
Same with the Zl1...just disappointing..high 11's low 12's...give me a break.
Re-engineer these cars...start over...let them weigh no more then 3200-3400lbs...400-450hp would be more then enough...mpg would jump up...build a real 21st century drivers car.
In my opinion we are officially at the point of diminishing returns in the horsepower wars.
/getting old rant
I was enamored with both the 5th gen and the GT500 when each came out. I appreciate the sheer insane amounts of power these cars are making from the factory. But this getting ridiculous.
Mid 11's with a motor that is closing in on 700hp at the flywheel...700 F*%#ing horsepower and you are running mid 11's! Congrats...you built a mkIV Supra
( I kid, I kid)! Same with the Zl1...just disappointing..high 11's low 12's...give me a break.
Re-engineer these cars...start over...let them weigh no more then 3200-3400lbs...400-450hp would be more then enough...mpg would jump up...build a real 21st century drivers car.
In my opinion we are officially at the point of diminishing returns in the horsepower wars.
/getting old rant
05-23-2012, 06:03 AM
#317
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Location: Providence, RI, USA
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Re: 2013 GT500 Base MSRP = $54,995
Here's to the next-gens! Hopefully GM won't stick with the idea that the Camaro should always be 200-300 lb. heavier than the Mustang...
Current-gens = engine-donor cars to me
05-23-2012, 09:10 AM
#318
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Location: Richmond, TX
Posts: 574
Re: 2013 GT500 Base MSRP = $54,995
God, these heavy-*** new cars are disappointing.
I was enamored with both the 5th gen and the GT500 when each came out. I appreciate the sheer insane amounts of power these cars are making from the factory. But this getting ridiculous.
Mid 11's with a motor that is closing in on 700hp at the flywheel...700 F*%#ing horsepower and you are running mid 11's! Congrats...you built a mkIV Supra ( I kid, I kid)!
Same with the Zl1...just disappointing..high 11's low 12's...give me a break.
Re-engineer these cars...start over...let them weigh no more then 3200-3400lbs...400-450hp would be more then enough...mpg would jump up...build a real 21st century drivers car.
In my opinion we are officially at the point of diminishing returns in the horsepower wars.
/getting old rant
I was enamored with both the 5th gen and the GT500 when each came out. I appreciate the sheer insane amounts of power these cars are making from the factory. But this getting ridiculous.
Mid 11's with a motor that is closing in on 700hp at the flywheel...700 F*%#ing horsepower and you are running mid 11's! Congrats...you built a mkIV Supra
( I kid, I kid)! Same with the Zl1...just disappointing..high 11's low 12's...give me a break.
Re-engineer these cars...start over...let them weigh no more then 3200-3400lbs...400-450hp would be more then enough...mpg would jump up...build a real 21st century drivers car.
In my opinion we are officially at the point of diminishing returns in the horsepower wars.
/getting old rant
There's a big difference between a 3800lb 1970 Chevelle with a 700hp big block and the 3800lb GT500 with a 700hp mod motor and it ain't weight.
The Chevelle will run 9's(on slicks) and get 9mpg, has neck snapping torque and shifts, handles like a bus, is borderline as usable car, and will kill you 9 times out of 10 in a major collision.
These modern 400+ hp cars are locked down from the factory by ECU tuning to give the warranty half a chance. They throttle back on shifts, they retard timing, etc. And they get you 24mpg, handle on rails, total crash safety, and every modern doo-dad.
You're complaining about factory performance when it's the highest it's ever been in history AND you're just tires and a tune away from realizing the real performance of big hp numbers. These cars will be 9 sec daily drivers with less than $2K in em.
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