My point is, that the 5th Gen Camaro has absolutely NOTHING to be embarrassed about.

-Geoff

 

Neither car has anything to be embarrassed about.

 

2013 Ford Shelby GT500 road test data and specs - Motor Trend
>>>Quarter mile 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph <<<

Mid-11sec, ~126mph

You do now!

Yup

 

Uh huh

 

If I beat a 350Z by just a tenth of a second in my 375hp 4200lb Challenger, I'd be embarrassed.

But based on the 11.6@126 reported above, there's no danger of the GT500 being embarrassed. Now it's the Z06's turn.

 

If you ran a ZL1 on the same day with the same driver it would mean a lot more. It should be even faster than .5 seconds by my calculations. Car is a beast though.

(Yet still no ring times).

-Geoff

 

Here is why you will never see Ring times. It actually went down in lateral G's from the last model even though it is said to be easier to drive.

Geoff

 

Its to bad there isn't some sort of "drag pack" wth a more conventionally geared transmission. I'm reading the car does 130 in 3rd If its was geared similar to my car the 0-60 run might suffer (since you have to shift into 2nd around 40 or 50 mph) but it would probably knock a coupla ticks off the 1/4 mile time.

 

Didn't you previously say: ? That would have been low/mid-12s. But now you're saying it should be quicker than 11.6?

C'mon, give it up, I called it

 

I'm surprised neither of the Big 3 auto makers are doing a drag pack for any of the cars. Considering most pony car buyers go to drag strips over road courses.

 

130 in 3rd gear is a lot....but if the car is doing 125+ in the 1/4 mile, you're not far from a 4th gear shift before the traps - which a lower gear (higher numerically) would certainly bring on. Of course, as a drag racer, I would go the more gear route, but make it so that it would run very close to redline in 4th gear, making that extra gear change worthwhile.

I haven't done the math (haven't gotten bored enough yet), but I suspect something around a 4.10 would be required to do that (assuming 4th is a 1:1 ratio, as most are...MT82 excepted).

 

Keep in mind that everyone else who tested the car is going significantly slower than Motor Trend. All those slower times are actual. Motor Trend used a correction factor

 

Both GM and Ford acknowledged that most of the only racing that the two cars will see is at the drag strip, so they did make sure to build in durability for that kind of abuse. Inside line mentioned that at the GT 500 press event 5 test cars made about 150 passes that day - with drivers new to the car and without a failure. The gearing might not be the most desirable but everything else is built for it.

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I wouldn't call 11.81 @ 125 mph significantly slower.

 

God, these heavy-*** new cars are disappointing.

I was enamored with both the 5th gen and the GT500 when each came out. I appreciate the sheer insane amounts of power these cars are making from the factory. But this getting ridiculous.

Mid 11's with a motor that is closing in on 700hp at the flywheel...700 F*%#ing horsepower and you are running mid 11's! Congrats...you built a mkIV Supra ( I kid, I kid)!

Same with the Zl1...just disappointing..high 11's low 12's...give me a break.

Re-engineer these cars...start over...let them weigh no more then 3200-3400lbs...400-450hp would be more then enough...mpg would jump up...build a real 21st century drivers car.

In my opinion we are officially at the point of diminishing returns in the horsepower wars.

/getting old rant