Tired of this RICER vs. DOMESTIC crap
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2 Z point
As much as I hate to say this but I agree with you on the Supra only..........Mr2 and RX7 are quick but stock they still are not as fast as a Z28........
However the Supra is a force to be reckoned with........I replaced the heads and gaskets in one of these engines.... They are so close to being perfectly timed for the engine and so precise in measurement it is unbelievable and theyre 2nd gear is quite fierce for the size.....
This is probably the only import aside from an NSX or a 300Z I would own......Otherwise it has to be luxury
Jim
However the Supra is a force to be reckoned with........I replaced the heads and gaskets in one of these engines.... They are so close to being perfectly timed for the engine and so precise in measurement it is unbelievable and theyre 2nd gear is quite fierce for the size.....
This is probably the only import aside from an NSX or a 300Z I would own......Otherwise it has to be luxury
Jim
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Re: 2 Z point
Originally posted by desertwind
As much as I hate to say this but I agree with you on the Supra only..........Mr2 and RX7 are quick but stock they still are not as fast as a Z28........
However the Supra is a force to be reckoned with........I replaced the heads and gaskets in one of these engines.... They are so close to being perfectly timed for the engine and so precise in measurement it is unbelievable and theyre 2nd gear is quite fierce for the size.....
This is probably the only import aside from an NSX or a 300Z I would own......Otherwise it has to be luxury
Jim
As much as I hate to say this but I agree with you on the Supra only..........Mr2 and RX7 are quick but stock they still are not as fast as a Z28........
However the Supra is a force to be reckoned with........I replaced the heads and gaskets in one of these engines.... They are so close to being perfectly timed for the engine and so precise in measurement it is unbelievable and theyre 2nd gear is quite fierce for the size.....
This is probably the only import aside from an NSX or a 300Z I would own......Otherwise it has to be luxury
Jim
As for everyone rolling thier eyes at me posting this in the kill section....the kill section is where I see most of the **** talking between imports and domestics...so where else would I post it.
BUT IF YOU WANT A KILL I JUST HAPPENED TO RUN INTO A LEXUS IS300. Normally I would not feel threatened ,but this thing had a huge turbo and was fast as hell. He kept reving at me and trying to get me to jump. Well we happened to hit a red light. The light turned green and he jumped. I rolled out to about 15 mph then stood on it. The look on his cocky face was priceless...:ekk: I think he is somewhere now trying to buy a bigger turbo..lol.
So my point is I love all cars ,but don't try to race a 4.10 geared V8 on slicks from stoplight to stoplight unless you got something serious...
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Re: Tired of this RICER vs. DOMESTIC crap
Originally posted by 2ZPOINT
I am sick of hearing all this ricer vs. domestic sh*t. All you redneck " AMERICAN MUSCLE TILL I DIE" countryboys can kiss my ***,and that goes the same for you little 17 yr old.." my momma bought my civic,but it runs 10s with an exhaust" dumba**es too. I love sport cars ...period. I give respect to someone with a fast civic (they are just ugly to me)...but the rest of those idiots give japanese cars a bad name. And all you V8 domestic heads talk too much **** on imports,cuz frankly they are plenty of imports that will hand you your ***. The civic to me is not a real sports car,but neither was the 55-57 chevy either. That still did not stop people from turning many of these into fast cars back then..huh. Why did they not just buy a vette. CUZ THEY WERE CHEAP JUST LIKE THE CIVIC. Now I love my camaro...but I love japanese sportcars as well. The SUPRA,RX7,AND MR2(91-95) would be on par with our cars stock,but leave us in the curves. My lt1 is a pain in the *** to work on. So we can't say v8s are easier to work on anymore. People always talk **** on supras ,but you need to read up on this car. It trully is a awesome automobile. All the internals of the engine can support up to 900 HORSES STOCK. Yes the turbo,fuel,and exhaust need to be upgraded (not cheap),but considering you would have to do major internal work on a ls1 or lt1 to achieve the same numbers the dollar amount is not too diffrent. Everyone that says most supras with mods just run 12s are full of ****. The guy who owns it just doesn't know how to work on the dam thing correctly. I know a guy here who has one that runs 9.80s and has full interior,ac, can be daily driven,and no he does not have 100,00 dollars under the hood.
I AM NOT DOWNING OUR CARS I AM JUST SAYING CHOICE YOUR WEAPON. They all have thier pluses and minuses.
It all boils down to this. America did not have any sports cars untill they tried to emulate the cars coming out of italy and germany back in the 50s. Even Enzo Ferrari in the early 60s said the only sports car coming out of america is the vette. America looked at the ferraris and porches,and the american muscle was born. Now japan is looking at europe to design thier cars. People say why is everything turbocharged. Ferrari and porche have been doing this since the early 70s. America looked to europe for inspiration....japan looked to europe for inspiration...so in the grand scheme of this Domestic vs. Import thing....
..............WHAT THE F*CK IS THE DIFFRENCE................................
and that was Car History in prospective from professor 2zpoint...lol
I am sick of hearing all this ricer vs. domestic sh*t. All you redneck " AMERICAN MUSCLE TILL I DIE" countryboys can kiss my ***,and that goes the same for you little 17 yr old.." my momma bought my civic,but it runs 10s with an exhaust" dumba**es too. I love sport cars ...period. I give respect to someone with a fast civic (they are just ugly to me)...but the rest of those idiots give japanese cars a bad name. And all you V8 domestic heads talk too much **** on imports,cuz frankly they are plenty of imports that will hand you your ***. The civic to me is not a real sports car,but neither was the 55-57 chevy either. That still did not stop people from turning many of these into fast cars back then..huh. Why did they not just buy a vette. CUZ THEY WERE CHEAP JUST LIKE THE CIVIC. Now I love my camaro...but I love japanese sportcars as well. The SUPRA,RX7,AND MR2(91-95) would be on par with our cars stock,but leave us in the curves. My lt1 is a pain in the *** to work on. So we can't say v8s are easier to work on anymore. People always talk **** on supras ,but you need to read up on this car. It trully is a awesome automobile. All the internals of the engine can support up to 900 HORSES STOCK. Yes the turbo,fuel,and exhaust need to be upgraded (not cheap),but considering you would have to do major internal work on a ls1 or lt1 to achieve the same numbers the dollar amount is not too diffrent. Everyone that says most supras with mods just run 12s are full of ****. The guy who owns it just doesn't know how to work on the dam thing correctly. I know a guy here who has one that runs 9.80s and has full interior,ac, can be daily driven,and no he does not have 100,00 dollars under the hood.
I AM NOT DOWNING OUR CARS I AM JUST SAYING CHOICE YOUR WEAPON. They all have thier pluses and minuses.
It all boils down to this. America did not have any sports cars untill they tried to emulate the cars coming out of italy and germany back in the 50s. Even Enzo Ferrari in the early 60s said the only sports car coming out of america is the vette. America looked at the ferraris and porches,and the american muscle was born. Now japan is looking at europe to design thier cars. People say why is everything turbocharged. Ferrari and porche have been doing this since the early 70s. America looked to europe for inspiration....japan looked to europe for inspiration...so in the grand scheme of this Domestic vs. Import thing....
..............WHAT THE F*CK IS THE DIFFRENCE................................
and that was Car History in prospective from professor 2zpoint...lol
Good post............I mean good "KILL"
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Re: Tired of this RICER vs. DOMESTIC crap
Originally posted by 2ZPOINT
I am sick of hearing all this ricer vs. domestic sh*t. All you redneck " AMERICAN MUSCLE TILL I DIE" countryboys can kiss my ***,and that goes the same for you little 17 yr old.." my momma bought my civic,but it runs 10s with an exhaust" dumba**es too. I love sport cars ...period. I give respect to someone with a fast civic (they are just ugly to me)...but the rest of those idiots give japanese cars a bad name. And all you V8 domestic heads talk too much **** on imports,cuz frankly they are plenty of imports that will hand you your ***. The civic to me is not a real sports car,but neither was the 55-57 chevy either. That still did not stop people from turning many of these into fast cars back then..huh. Why did they not just buy a vette. CUZ THEY WERE CHEAP JUST LIKE THE CIVIC. Now I love my camaro...but I love japanese sportcars as well. The SUPRA,RX7,AND MR2(91-95) would be on par with our cars stock,but leave us in the curves. My lt1 is a pain in the *** to work on. So we can't say v8s are easier to work on anymore. People always talk **** on supras ,but you need to read up on this car. It trully is a awesome automobile. All the internals of the engine can support up to 900 HORSES STOCK. Yes the turbo,fuel,and exhaust need to be upgraded (not cheap),but considering you would have to do major internal work on a ls1 or lt1 to achieve the same numbers the dollar amount is not too diffrent. Everyone that says most supras with mods just run 12s are full of ****. The guy who owns it just doesn't know how to work on the dam thing correctly. I know a guy here who has one that runs 9.80s and has full interior,ac, can be daily driven,and no he does not have 100,00 dollars under the hood.
I AM NOT DOWNING OUR CARS I AM JUST SAYING CHOICE YOUR WEAPON. They all have thier pluses and minuses.
It all boils down to this. America did not have any sports cars untill they tried to emulate the cars coming out of italy and germany back in the 50s. Even Enzo Ferrari in the early 60s said the only sports car coming out of america is the vette. America looked at the ferraris and porches,and the american muscle was born. Now japan is looking at europe to design thier cars. People say why is everything turbocharged. Ferrari and porche have been doing this since the early 70s. America looked to europe for inspiration....japan looked to europe for inspiration...so in the grand scheme of this Domestic vs. Import thing....
..............WHAT THE F*CK IS THE DIFFRENCE................................
and that was Car History in prospective from professor 2zpoint...lol
I am sick of hearing all this ricer vs. domestic sh*t. All you redneck " AMERICAN MUSCLE TILL I DIE" countryboys can kiss my ***,and that goes the same for you little 17 yr old.." my momma bought my civic,but it runs 10s with an exhaust" dumba**es too. I love sport cars ...period. I give respect to someone with a fast civic (they are just ugly to me)...but the rest of those idiots give japanese cars a bad name. And all you V8 domestic heads talk too much **** on imports,cuz frankly they are plenty of imports that will hand you your ***. The civic to me is not a real sports car,but neither was the 55-57 chevy either. That still did not stop people from turning many of these into fast cars back then..huh. Why did they not just buy a vette. CUZ THEY WERE CHEAP JUST LIKE THE CIVIC. Now I love my camaro...but I love japanese sportcars as well. The SUPRA,RX7,AND MR2(91-95) would be on par with our cars stock,but leave us in the curves. My lt1 is a pain in the *** to work on. So we can't say v8s are easier to work on anymore. People always talk **** on supras ,but you need to read up on this car. It trully is a awesome automobile. All the internals of the engine can support up to 900 HORSES STOCK. Yes the turbo,fuel,and exhaust need to be upgraded (not cheap),but considering you would have to do major internal work on a ls1 or lt1 to achieve the same numbers the dollar amount is not too diffrent. Everyone that says most supras with mods just run 12s are full of ****. The guy who owns it just doesn't know how to work on the dam thing correctly. I know a guy here who has one that runs 9.80s and has full interior,ac, can be daily driven,and no he does not have 100,00 dollars under the hood.
I AM NOT DOWNING OUR CARS I AM JUST SAYING CHOICE YOUR WEAPON. They all have thier pluses and minuses.
It all boils down to this. America did not have any sports cars untill they tried to emulate the cars coming out of italy and germany back in the 50s. Even Enzo Ferrari in the early 60s said the only sports car coming out of america is the vette. America looked at the ferraris and porches,and the american muscle was born. Now japan is looking at europe to design thier cars. People say why is everything turbocharged. Ferrari and porche have been doing this since the early 70s. America looked to europe for inspiration....japan looked to europe for inspiration...so in the grand scheme of this Domestic vs. Import thing....
..............WHAT THE F*CK IS THE DIFFRENCE................................
and that was Car History in prospective from professor 2zpoint...lol
Good post............I mean good "KILL"
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Re: 2 Z point
Originally posted by desertwind
As much as I hate to say this but I agree with you on the Supra only..........Mr2 and RX7 are quick but stock they still are not as fast as a Z28........
However the Supra is a force to be reckoned with........I replaced the heads and gaskets in one of these engines.... They are so close to being perfectly timed for the engine and so precise in measurement it is unbelievable and theyre 2nd gear is quite fierce for the size.....
This is probably the only import aside from an NSX or a 300Z I would own......Otherwise it has to be luxury
Jim
As much as I hate to say this but I agree with you on the Supra only..........Mr2 and RX7 are quick but stock they still are not as fast as a Z28........
However the Supra is a force to be reckoned with........I replaced the heads and gaskets in one of these engines.... They are so close to being perfectly timed for the engine and so precise in measurement it is unbelievable and theyre 2nd gear is quite fierce for the size.....
This is probably the only import aside from an NSX or a 300Z I would own......Otherwise it has to be luxury
Jim
The STI Runs Solid Mid 12's with just boost control and an exhaust...
The evo can be made to dip into the 11's with about 2 grand in mods...
Sombody recently made an EVO run an 11.6@117 on the stock turbo no NOS.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...threadid=46095
Last edited by Butterfingers; Nov 8, 2003 at 12:06 PM.
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Re: Re: 2 Z point
Originally posted by Butterfingers
We also have to watch for the new AWD turbo varieties coming out they can get silly fast for really cheap...
The STI Runs Solid Mid 12's with just boost control and an exhaust...
The evo can be made to dip into the 11's with about 2 grand in mods...
Sombody recently made an EVO run an 11.6@117 on the stock turbo no NOS.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...threadid=46095
We also have to watch for the new AWD turbo varieties coming out they can get silly fast for really cheap...
The STI Runs Solid Mid 12's with just boost control and an exhaust...
The evo can be made to dip into the 11's with about 2 grand in mods...
Sombody recently made an EVO run an 11.6@117 on the stock turbo no NOS.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...threadid=46095
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supra is good, for an import.
t88 supra < to t88 camaro (or even stang)
yeah but the engine is a no-top end ****. with AWD 13s is the least any car should do.
ths sti is a bit better, after 80mph - no longer.
how abou tthe regular WRX..even a civic si will pull on it after 120.
also v8 guys can never talk too much **** why?
KOENIGSEGG= Fastest car in the world.
Supercharged v8. OOPS. lol
hey at least they let the imports make up their own little drag racing circuits wqith thei own SUPER LOOSE rules..
like in weight and engine mods... like the TITAN supra running a GM 3 speed.
and countless 4 cyls using v8 truckheads chopped?
and no weight limitations, so they can pretend to run with the domestics..
the Battle is summed up like this:
this weekedn at MIR thewre is a import vs domestic shootout.
they'll let a supra run 2 power adders, or any import..
but NO V8 can be turbo or have 2 power adders..
why?
to try to give rice nation a chance, lol sad.
t88 supra < to t88 camaro (or even stang)
The evo can be made to dip into the 11's with about 2 grand in mods...
ths sti is a bit better, after 80mph - no longer.
how abou tthe regular WRX..even a civic si will pull on it after 120.
also v8 guys can never talk too much **** why?
KOENIGSEGG= Fastest car in the world.
Supercharged v8. OOPS. lol
hey at least they let the imports make up their own little drag racing circuits wqith thei own SUPER LOOSE rules..
like in weight and engine mods... like the TITAN supra running a GM 3 speed.
and countless 4 cyls using v8 truckheads chopped?
and no weight limitations, so they can pretend to run with the domestics..
the Battle is summed up like this:
this weekedn at MIR thewre is a import vs domestic shootout.
they'll let a supra run 2 power adders, or any import..
but NO V8 can be turbo or have 2 power adders..
why?
to try to give rice nation a chance, lol sad.
Last edited by excal; Nov 8, 2003 at 02:54 PM.
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Originally posted by excal
supra is good, for an import.
t88 supra < to t88 camaro (or even stang)
yeah but the engine is a no-top end ****. with AWD 13s is the least any car should do.
ths sti is a bit better, after 80mph - no longer.
how abou tthe regular WRX..even a civic si will pull on it after 120.
also v8 guys can never talk too much **** why?
KOENIGSEGG= Fastest car in the world.
Supercharged v8. OOPS. lol
hey at least they let the imports make up their own little drag racing circuits wqith thei own SUPER LOOSE rules..
like in weight and engine mods... like the TITAN supra running a GM 3 speed.
and countless 4 cyls using v8 truckheads chopped?
and no weight limitations, so they can pretend to run with the domestics..
the Battle is summed up like this:
this weekedn at MIR thewre is a import vs domestic shootout.
they'll let a supra run 2 power adders, or any import..
but NO V8 can be turbo or have 2 power adders..
why?
to try to give rice nation a chance, lol sad.
supra is good, for an import.
t88 supra < to t88 camaro (or even stang)
yeah but the engine is a no-top end ****. with AWD 13s is the least any car should do.
ths sti is a bit better, after 80mph - no longer.
how abou tthe regular WRX..even a civic si will pull on it after 120.
also v8 guys can never talk too much **** why?
KOENIGSEGG= Fastest car in the world.
Supercharged v8. OOPS. lol
hey at least they let the imports make up their own little drag racing circuits wqith thei own SUPER LOOSE rules..
like in weight and engine mods... like the TITAN supra running a GM 3 speed.
and countless 4 cyls using v8 truckheads chopped?
and no weight limitations, so they can pretend to run with the domestics..
the Battle is summed up like this:
this weekedn at MIR thewre is a import vs domestic shootout.
they'll let a supra run 2 power adders, or any import..
but NO V8 can be turbo or have 2 power adders..
why?
to try to give rice nation a chance, lol sad.
VERY intelligent post.
FWIW, a stock Civic Si of any year will not pull on a stock WRX. Not in the low end, not in the top end, not ever.
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Originally posted by excal
supra is good, for an import.
t88 supra < to t88 camaro (or even stang)
yeah but the engine is a no-top end ****. with AWD 13s is the least any car should do.
ths sti is a bit better, after 80mph - no longer.
how abou tthe regular WRX..even a civic si will pull on it after 120.
also v8 guys can never talk too much **** why?
= Fastest car in the world.
Supercharged v8. OOPS. lol
hey at least they let the imports make up their own little drag racing circuits wqith thei own SUPER LOOSE rules..
like in weight and engine mods... like the TITAN supra running a GM 3 speed.
and countless 4 cyls using v8 truckheads chopped?
and no weight limitations, so they can pretend to run with the domestics..
the Battle is summed up like this:
this weekedn at MIR thewre is a import vs domestic shootout.
they'll let a supra run 2 power adders, or any import..
but NO V8 can be turbo or have 2 power adders..
why?
to try to give rice nation a chance, lol sad.
supra is good, for an import.
t88 supra < to t88 camaro (or even stang)
yeah but the engine is a no-top end ****. with AWD 13s is the least any car should do.
ths sti is a bit better, after 80mph - no longer.
how abou tthe regular WRX..even a civic si will pull on it after 120.
also v8 guys can never talk too much **** why?
= Fastest car in the world.
Supercharged v8. OOPS. lol
hey at least they let the imports make up their own little drag racing circuits wqith thei own SUPER LOOSE rules..
like in weight and engine mods... like the TITAN supra running a GM 3 speed.
and countless 4 cyls using v8 truckheads chopped?
and no weight limitations, so they can pretend to run with the domestics..
the Battle is summed up like this:
this weekedn at MIR thewre is a import vs domestic shootout.
they'll let a supra run 2 power adders, or any import..
but NO V8 can be turbo or have 2 power adders..
why?
to try to give rice nation a chance, lol sad.
Learn to read trap speeds and what they mean then we will talk...
Isnt a KOENIGSEGG an import?
Try running a T88 on STOCK INTERNALS, STOCK, ENGINE, and STOCK Trannies... and see if your motor will hold up like a supra...
www.to4r.com
Most of which are running 700-1000hp on unopened engines...
Last edited by Butterfingers; Nov 8, 2003 at 04:00 PM.
