Not if the LS1 has a turboooooO!!!!!!!

 

I don't know if they have restrictors, although my guess is they do.

 

since hes gonna be out for a while ill respond for him. he wasnt whining about buying a $26k car. he was whining about how a $4k car can do damn near everything better. but i guess you wouldnt understand that.

i dont think anyone was arguing the RWD traction advantage. but i do know of a few civics in this nation cutting 1.6 or better (been a while since i last checked) short times.

please tell me how any of that related to this arguement? thats all personal preference. also, do you think that everyone in this world wants to drive around a modded car that sounds like its about to stall? while i like the sound of cam lope it would get old hearing it everyday. plus you failed to mention the fact of turbos acting as a muffler...

and there arent dumbass fbody owners? hell i think there are several examples of that in this thread alone. the fbody mentality it seems is that everything else sucks. why is that? its also no secret that there are lots of riced out hondas in this world. but at the same time its also no secret that there are alot of mullet wearing sister screwing hicks that drive fbodies in this world either. so why base your opinion off of something that doesnt reflect the community as a whole? or is it too hard to concentrate on your chew AND think about a topic in depth like that?

and im starting to not like fbodies because of people like you. if it isnt a cammed, stalled 4.10 geared fbody then its not a good car it seems.diversity is what makes modding cars fun because of your wide aray of modded cars you will come across. i guess thats too hard to figure out tho, between that and polishing your naked lady silhouette mud flaps on your big bad fbody.

 

Ok do you know what a short block is?? Meaning all stock internals and stock block. Heads, intake, etc are not included. If you are referring to the 5.0 motors that had stock internals, the block was still weak and they stopped producing those in 89-91, cant remember.

synthetic fluids will not give you 5-10 rwhp. Maybe 1 or 2 if that. Sort of like most CAI, which are worthless.

NASCAR engines have restrictor plates on them for some events but no all if I remember correctly. That brings down the power a lot.

 

Yes I know what a short block is.

Wrong about the synthetic fluids.

There you go.

 

Your on the wrong website. You will never get along with the people here.

Why is he out for a while? Are you two buddies? Yeah $4K cars do everything better than $26K cars. Ever heard of supply and demand. According to that, a $26K car is worth 6.5 times as much to most people than the $4K car. The more expensive car is nicer looking, newer, in better shape, has less miles therefore more reliable. Better in most ways.

It related to this arguement because the car in question is an egg shaped POS.

 

"First we made a series of runs on the Westech Performance Superflow chassis dyno with 20W50 in the crankcase, Dexron III in the gearbox, and 75W90 gear oil in the TracLoc differential; the result was 408.3 horsepower and 405.1 lb-ft of torque. Then we drained the petro-chemicals and replaced them with man-made hydrocarbons from Royal Purple: 7 quarts of 20W50 synthetic engine oil, 6 quarts of Max ATF, and 2½ quarts of Max Gear 75W90. After a 5-mile jaunt to get everything up to the same temperature as the baseline test, we let it rip. The monitor read 418.4 hp and 411.2 lb-ft of torque, a gain of 10.1 hp and 6.1 lb-ft just by switching to synthetics: an impressive tribute to the reduced coefficient of friction."

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/79838/

 

Thanks! See I don't post bs, i'm just to lazy to prove it.

 

ohh yes, a magazine. Always such GREAT info from magazines. I bet non of these companies pay them any thing to write that up right?

 

Yes mogs, a magazine and a dyno run. If you have *dyno evidence* that going from full dino to full synthetic is only 1 or 2 horses, as you've *claimed*, then bring it on. Otherwise, all we have is your opinion, which is apparently devoid of any facts to back it up -- like your claim about CAI's... "Maybe 1 or 2 if that. Sort of like most CAI, which are worthless."

Most CAI's are worthless? Um, yeah, I'll be getting my technical information from people other than you, thank you very much.

 

Steve, you drive a mildly modded Mustang, what chance do you have running an ITR? for the record,that wasnt even the point I was trying to stress, my point is you car is slow. slow and pathetic. you talk aout top fuel dragsters running whatever times when (a) they are not street car and we ARE talking about street cars and (b) you will never be anywhere near those levels in your lifetime. all you do is talk about what other people have and what else is fast out there while you drive a pos 14 second car. not that I have a problem with 14 sec cars,but you are in no position to talk down to ANYONE, both my cars could hand you your *** any day of the week. any MILD turbo honda would do the same. and possible bolt on all motor ones. but you ignore that and proceed to talk about hypothetical bs. "well if I had xxx mods...." wake up you dont. you drive a 14 second eyesore.

There is a saying that there is always someone faster. in your case thats ANY car with ANY mods. you are at the bottom of the barrel yet you have the most **** to talk.. the topic is turbo hondas, now can u beat them?

 

Ok then. Let's say a stock $26k LS1 WS6 or SS runs 13.3 stock in the quarter. I'd say that's a pretty fair estimate, I think they've clocked an SS as low as 12.8 stock, and from being on here some of the slower ones run 13.5 stock. Show me a Honda that will run 13.3 for $4,000 price of car included. I want to see everything. If you have to put a new clutch in there to hold it, I wanna see money included for the price of resurfacing the flywheel, average price of the motor if you are swapping, not a once in a lifetime great deal, drag radials if you need them, electronics, fuel upgrades, piping for turbo, etc. Oh and another thing, this is a full weight comparison too just to level the playing field. My stock times were for LS1 cars in with no weight reduction, so that's how the Honda needs to be. I don't think you can do it. We're talking about taking well over 2, maybe even 3 seconds off a cars stock quarter mile time for around $2500 (assuming $1500 price of car).

Actually, I'd like to drive around a car that can smoke 75% or more of the cars I come across on the road, and all this while idling smooth and quiet and being super comfortable- Too bad I can't afford an M5. But given the choice I'd take a car that has an aggressive cam lope to it over something that sounds like queef through a folgers coffee can anyday. And coming from someone who used to drive a car that sounds like its about to stall around every day, it doesn't get old

There sure are dumbass F-body owners. However, as far back as I can remember I can only recall seeing maybe 4 stupid looking Camaros. Some idiot put 20" wheels on one and tried to make it a cruiser, some other guy put dayton wheels on his, the other two I can't remember exactly what the deal was but all those cars were V6's. Contrast this to every time I turn around I see some riced out Civic with a huge park bench wing, more APC stickers than I can count, rockin the stock steel black wheels and the mad tyte pep boys altezza lights. So in retrospect, whether you like it or not, the main part of the Honda community is a bunch of tasteless riceboys whose main purpose in life is to buy a body kit, some cheap APC parts, and dream of one day achieving "JDM tyteness".


Blah blah blah blah. Be sure to include the price of same lady silhouette mud flaps in the price of your $4,000 Honda that can run faster than a 13.3 quarter mile time riceboy. If you're starting to not like F-bodies, just let the feeling take over! Just quit coming to this site, and spend your time on the Honda sites with all the other FWD sh*tbox fans that are in denial because they, like you think their cars are more "special" than they actually are.

 

LOL park bench for a wing That is funny. I have to say that the sound of a 4 cylinder through a coffee can is just sooo annoying to me. I love the way my car sways side to side in park when revved to 3k. I dont really have anything against the ricers who can actually achieve a fast 4 banger. Its the ones who put 6 inch nacho cheese cans on there exhuast and ask u if u wanna race, those are the ones that annoy me. But I have to say that a nice f-body with a rumbley v-8 is more impressive to the ladies around here in my area and no I am not talking about toothless 300lb women either.

 

do yall notice that 99% of the threads that 87camracer and RawAzzLT1 post in goes to ****. Do they ever have anything nice to say?

i dont know what id do if i actually saw them defending a f-body.

 

You know what's funny, at the beginning of this thread I was actually defending the Honda's chances in the race (that's what this thread was originally about, right?).

And you are correct, pretty much any thread RawAzzCamracer (I'm just going to refer to them as one person from now on) posts in goes to sh*t. That should be enough to tell them something. Not to be an ***, but I have no idea why they are still here. All I hear coming from them is how Hondas are cheaper to make fast than F-bodies, F-bodys are for redneck mullet-headed inbreds, and they always have a list of 25 or so Hondas in this country that could walk the fastest cars on this site.