Originally Posted by GreenDemon

Wow there's a lot of BS in here.

the reason people add turbos to four cylinders is because that is the only way to make it competitive with a V8.

Originally Posted by RawAzzLT1

Couldnt someone say the only reason people stroke and spray an already HUGE motor (5.7,350cid) is because its the only way its competitive with a turbo 4 cylinder? I dont see any 350 cid n/a motors on the street making enough power to keep up with a 400hp honda.. before you get pissed of by my comment. sit and think about what I just said. 350cid is the biggest production motor offered in any car under 50k since 1982. yet its not effcient enough to keep up with a 96cid turbo 1.6, surely you dont think a turbo makes up for 254 cubic inches, 4.1 litres and 4 more cylinders do you?

Originally Posted by Steve Y

350s can put out upwards of 900 horses n/a. They wouldn't be very streetable, but still. A turbo does make up for .............. when it is a built motor in a lighter car while boosting it within an inch of its life. Let's build a V8 just like your little 4 pooper and see what it puts out! That's what I thought.

Originally Posted by 87camracer

you just dont quit with the stupid comebacks do you? who cares what a v8 can make with a turbo and this and that. we never said it couldnt. we arent in denial that a properly built v8 CAN run with a honda at the track. you seem to be in denial tho that any sort of honda can hang with ANY v8 no matter where the race takes place. i KNOW you have seen proof otherwise, because ive shown it to you myself on here. like i said, denial.

Originally Posted by 87camracer

\i can give you an example of over 25 hondas in the US that would walk handily over most any street car on here. period. and they would probably have spent less to do it. NA 4 cylinders arent fast. no one ever said they were. what we have been arguing is dumbass people like you that seem to get their jollies off somehow on bashing a persons car.

fwiw, you cant stroke a honda engine to my knowledge. 14:!? wow thats retarded. actually, let me take that back, most of your post was.

as for those older folks rolling their eyes, most of them dont eve care about performance anymore. and you also seem to get the ricer crowd confused with those actually wanting to go fast in their hondas. again it somehow doesnt surprise me.

Bill:
i never said my turd gen was faster than your second gen. i was however using those stereotypes since everyone else seems to be able to use the ricer stereotype with any import. cant take the heat? stay away from the fire.

Originally Posted by GreenDemon

Wow there's a lot of BS in here.

There's no replacement for displacement. The end. A 5.7L V8 has more potential than a 2.0L I4.

I don't see why people always argue about vehicle weight, either. If people really want to go fast they'd stick a V8 in a Miata or something and be done with it. I know there's a tuner that already stuck a 5.0 in a Focus, it was featured in a magazine. I would drive that if Focii weren't so ugly . I will not drive a little whiney four banger and call it a performance machine. It's amazing how all these people call overhead cams "technological breakthroughs" and think variable valve timing is going to add 50 hp to a little tiny engine. And the reason people add turbos to four cylinders is because that is the only way to make it competitive with a V8. I haven't heard of any NA 4 cylinders that keep up very well with an LS1, for instance, so there's some proof. I'm sure someone will chime in here about how they've witnessed a bored, stroked, 14:1 compression every bolt-on imaginable Honda beat a bone stock LS1. Wow, you've converted me now. Where do I sign up to drive a "performance machine" that guys my age roll their eyes at and older folks smirk when they see them and hot chicks beat them in their Hyundais and Corollas...

/rant... This subject has been beat to death anyway.

Originally Posted by RawAzzLT1

Bull$hit only a 4 bolt boss block or a race block can support over 500 I love how with each post you just keep on making up stuff about hondas and mustangs

Originally Posted by RawAzzLT1

doesnt it cost like 10 grand alone in parts you need to replace just to have reliable 5.0 that wont split its block making 420hp??

Originally Posted by RawAzzLT1

I can drive to the store with anwhere from 5 pounds to 10 pounds to no boost at all which can be anywhere from 200-350whp. depending on how much throttle I give it then put out over 450whp with the push of a button then back down to 200whp anytime I want. do you know what it takes as far as power and money for ANY car to even keep up with a 2400lb car with 450-550whp?

Originally Posted by Steve Y

You just don't quit being a ricer troll do you? A properly built V8 will DECIMATE a Honda at the track. I know Hondas can be fast. I never said they couldn't. I will be impressed with these sh**ty little four poopers can hang with a top fuel dragster. Until then V8s rule. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Steve Y

Ask Snorman, Cosby, etc. They will set the record straight.

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

Ohh and just from the ****ty mods in your sig, I can tell you do not really spend too much time researching what produces power and what doesn’t.

Nick

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

now a 350 making 900 hp?? hmm NO. even a lt5 motor which is a dohc stock 350 cubic inch motor needs to be bored and stroke to make those numbers and any stock OHV head will not flow the numbers a DOHC head will make like the lt5 heads.

Nick

Originally Posted by RawAzzLT1

I will be impressed when you keep up with any turbo honda that has bad tires and a slipping clutch. nothing worse than someone with a modified mustang running what bone stock integras run. does everyone remember that thread he made the other day when he was all pissed that he cant go faster thn a 14.6 with all the mods plus his new drag radials?

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

A stock long block 5.0 will not make anywhere near 400hp. You do realize that their heads do not flow worth a **** right?stock long block=stock EVERYTHING, heads, intake, came, block, internals, etc. That is a long block. Now with boost, everything is possible but only 50 hp more over 400 and you are going to run into issues.

Now a newer stock 5.0, which would be a 302, is not going to make any where near the numbers you are talking about reliable. Now if you are referring to the Boss, Mexican or Race blocks ok then that is a different story. A different stock 302 than what I have stated will have issues with the webbing, at the top of the motor, at around 450-500 hp. They have a tendency to crack and pretty much become a 4 cylinder, .

now a 350 making 900 hp?? hmm NO. even a lt5 motor which is a dohc stock 350 cubic inch motor needs to be bored and stroke to make those numbers and any stock OHV head will not flow the numbers a DOHC head will make like the lt5 heads.

350, now do you mean stock 350 or a stroke or bored over motor?

Ohh and just from the ****ty mods in your sig, I can tell you do not really spend too much time researching what produces power and what doesn’t.

Nick