I was pretty sure that was him doing the driving. That man is lightning when it comes to banging gears on a stick.

 

He's about as good as they get. Doesn't hurt that he is allowed to prep E-town before all the tests he does.

 

that was a 12.9 not a 12.8 pass bob.



just busting your *****.



you werent in nj last week were you?



i saw a brand new red cobra with VA plates.it was parked for awhile so i didnt see who owned it.

 

Read the article my friend....the early one went 12.89 (in good air), the SS that is pictured went 12.96.

I was in NJ (Atco) two weeks ago for the NMRA race, but we got rained out. Sucked, as I had the opportunity to sew up points in Factory Stock. Oh well - that's racing. Next event is in Michigan in two weeks. Anyways, I had the 99, not the new 04. NJ is a bit far to come just to run test-n-tune.

 

you did say reference didnt you?



that was a GMHTP/MM&FF combined test?(12.8 pass?)


too bad it wasnt you.wouldve had to take care of business.

 

GMHTP and MM7FF are the same folks, so I'm sure they crossed the data over. And I heard Sean already took care of ya, so I ain't too worried.

 

Yes, let's go there. Gears cause higher rpms on the highway which eats up more gas, makes more noise and vibration and decreases longevity of the engine. Let me guess you get better mileage on the highway with your 4.56s than with your stock 3.27s?

 

I read it in GMHTP. It was their '93 yellow project car. I am not going to waste my time doing a search for it on the web. Read the old mags if you don't believe me.


Assumption is the mother of all f. ups. Average is not necessarily the same as best times. From what I have seen, it's about 4 tenths and 4 mph at my dragstrip. How would you know what I saw? Were you there? No.

Ok, how long do your clutches last?

See, you suck at slipping the clutch with street tires, that was my point.

Your that much of a moron, sober? Scary!

You have no idea about my financial situation. Believe what you want. I'm not going to post stock certificates and the title to my house on the web for all to see.


That was pretty funny. I got to give you credit for a change.

 

steve, sorry to say this, but you have some issues....
i would recommend you getting rid of that gt, and buying an lt1, or better yet a low 13's stock ls1 fbody.
bob is giving you all the facts, and you are just sounding like a typical honda civic type r owner.
i can go cruising the streets at 50mph in 5th gear. i'm cruising, i'm not towing a trailer, why would i need all the lt1 tq below 3000 rpms, if you're racing, you don't want all the torque below 3000rpms. if you're cruising, what difference does it makes if you have tq below 3000 or not, that you have more tq to speed up from a 50mph roll in 5th gear???,
too bad a 350z would smoke your lt1, and a 350z is not even putting half of an lt1 tq below 3000 rpms. (stock vs stock), i know about h/c lt1's ok!!!

 

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/for...denav..6.Ford*

I have a question for you Bob. According to the above link your car weighs about 3430 lbs. The link was for a 2001 car, they didn't have a weight listed for the '99 car which is very similar to yours from the factory. So your car with a full tank of gas, spare, jack etc. weighs 3430 right? On your website you say that you lost 305 lbs. from weight reduction. But your car weighs 3335 lbs. with you in it on race day. So 3430-305=3125. Don't you run the car with nearly an empty tank of gas? That would be another 70ish pounds. Don't you run the car w/o spare, jack, extra seats, etc? That would be another 80ish pounds. So you weigh 210 lbs. + 70 + 80 lbs. right? Sounds like you, not the car needs a diet!

 

I'll take your recommendations to heart, really. Low end torque is fun and great for a daily driver. What 350z would smoke my LT1? I don't own an LT1. Yes, i'm sure the 350z puts out more than 1/2 the torque of an LT1 below 3000 rpm. You don't know your a** from a hole in the ground and you are dissing me?

 

As a matter of fact, I do. Any idea why? Want to hazard a guess? Care to look like an idiot again? Better think hard about that one before throwing the BS flag.

I don't believe you. Further, I don't think you can look it up because I don't think it exists. Your "I'm not going to waste my time" line is nothing more than an excuse.

Prove me wrong, or prove to everybody what you are - an internet racer.

LOL. At your dragstrip. All one of them? That's a big sampling you have there.

To answer your question, no, I wasn't. Would you like a list of tracks that I've been to since the LT1 debuted in 1993, and then should I ask you if YOU had been there? How about just this year? Bueller?

Don't know - I usually change the clutch whenever I break a tranny, whether it needs it or not. However, I went in excess of 30,000 miles on the original (before toasting my first T45 in the summer of 2001). I've never changed a clutch because it was worn. Rather, it makes sense to change it whenever the tranny is out for breakage.

Have fun with that one.

LOL. Ya ok. As far as you know. Damn the bad luck.

Being a moron in your eyes is quite the compliment. Thank you sir, might I have another?

Why not? Was it not you that said you could pay cash for a new Viper? Would you care for me to quote that? I'm calling your bluff - just like I did above. I challenge you to prove me wrong. And just like above, until you do, you're an internet racer. Nothing more, but perhaps something less (don't know, thankfully).

Well well well - my day has been made. No no, really!

OMG! The stupidity of this paragraph is CLASSIC! It is amazing what ignorance will do for you (and I don't use ignorance in a bad way - this time - I use it in its pure form, ie, lack of knowledge).

Once again....line item style...lets do some disecting...then I've GOT to get off my butt and go mow the backyard.

01's and 99's are likely within a few lbs of each other, though the 01 has a 3650 tranny vice a T45, which is ~15 lbs lighter. There are likely other minor differences, but they are probably pretty close to the same.

Anyways, I never weighed my car empty. I did, however, weigh it at the track, with me in it, spare/jack, but very little gas. It was 3590 lbs in that state, so ya, 3430 is probably about right.

This would be an accurate statement.

About that, yes.

Your math is good. Your assumption skills or not - but we'll get there.

Ya. If its just test-n-tune, about 2-3 gallons of premium unleaded. For class, we have use a spec fuel, and I buy 5 gallons before qualifying, and use that on Sat and Sun of the event, leaving somewhere between 3 and 4 gallons when the weekend is over.

Gas weighs ~6.2 lbs per gallon, so 70 lbs is a reasonable number.

Usually w/o spare and jack (I'll get to that below). If you've seen my website, then you know that I have cloth, manual seats and a rear seat delete kit - all adding up towards that 305 lb weight savings you referenced above.

Oh gee - and this is where we were going with this, and this is where poor wittle Steve is going to look about as stupid as he ever has (ok, that's probably an exxageration).

Here are some facts you either couldn't know or didn't bother to research before trying to make such a dumb statement.

The 305 lb referenced above included a tubular K-member, which is illegal in the class I race in, and did not include the 6 pt moly rollbar that is now in the car. Installing the stock K-member back into the car adds 55 lbs. The rollbar adds back ~50 lbs more.

Oops #1.

My race class has a minimum weight of 3325 lbs. A smart racer always leaves a little bit of cushion, so I try to run with the car around 3340 lbs. To do this requires me to add ballast (you know what that is, I assume?). My ballast consists of an iron bar filled with lead. It weighs 75 lbs and is legally bolted in my trunk (and is very easily removed). I also sometimes carry my spare and jack, as all scales vary a little, and if I need the extra weight, that's a convenient way to legally add it (by legal, I am referring to tech inspection).

Oops #2.

And finally, to disappoint you completely, I do not weigh anywhere near 360 lbs. In fact, though I'm hardly skinny or thin, I come in at about half that, and even do an occasional bit of running....such as the Bay Bridge Marathon back in 2002 (that's 26.2 miles, BTW).

The final oops...for this time, anyways.

 

While Bob is being a total dick, so is everyone else in this thread.

The problem is, he's totally raping all you guys with good old fashioned experience and know-how. Sure the LT1 has good low end grunt, but as Bob has mentioned the regular driver is only under 3k once during a race; and actual racers are never under 3k.

Has he said that the LT1 doesn't have its own merits and is not fun to drive? Not even close. He merely stated that the LS1 will tear it a proverbial new one in any legitimate speed comparison.

You guys are even so heated from this argument that you've begun slamming the LS1's that you all undoubtedly look up to, just trying to scrape for something to prove Bob wrong with. He obviously can drive. He obviously knows his stuff. And if he's being a cocky ****, perhaps its because he and his car can back it up. Numbers don't lie and Cosby's got them in spades.

Let's just agree to disagree that each car has it's own merits, people are entitled to their own opinions, 0-3000rpm races don't matter, and horsepower is indeed a derivative function of torque---the latter of which not being the only thing necessary to win a drag race.

Keep the American V8's cooking, guys, and I have no problem with whatever company flag you're flying as long as you love your car and respect others.

 

steve, that's maybe why i said you should've get rid of the gt, and i meant "Your" lt1 when you were driving your dad's lt1. also, i know the 350z won't make don't even half of the tq of an lt1, read my post again man, i said how sad it was for the lt1 guys to loose against one, even though your amazing tq below 3000rpm

 

Aaahh, I wouldn't call it "total"....I edited out a few things before I hit the "submit" button last time.

Heck, there are even some imports I like (though there is none that I'd take over any of my cars). Regardless, on this we agree.