What he's saying is 18 lbs of boost doesn't mean X amount of HP. 18 lbs. of boost from a big turbo like a T78 will make way more power than 18 psi from a TS04 or some smallish turbo. Also, given equal size turbos, 18 psi on a 5.7L engine will produce way more hp than 18 psi on a 1.3L engine, other factors being equal (that's where we have the advantage).

However, I think they missed your point which was that the ricers said our 350's couldn't handle the boost......they obviously can.

Jason

 

ok lets keep it street car to street car, because the aem drag civic makes about 1494hp on 22psi. thats 594hp more on only 4 more pounds, harlans car is not a street car. neither is the aem civic. people always said put a turbo on a ls1 and it has to be faster, that video proved wrong, I can now say with both being street cars the civic will always be faster. an fbody can make more power with less boost, but a civic can go faster with less power.

 

Your generalizations are going to get your feelings hurt in the real world genious. You just keep living in the internet world.

 

man....if this was posted in our forced induction forum.... it would be the joke of the day.

 

yay the camaro won!

 

On horsepower TV yesterday they did a blower built up on a 502 crate motor. On motor in made just over 400 at the wheels. And with a 8-71 roots type blower making 8lbs it made over 700rwhp!!

 

matt, prove to me that it takes "18psi" for a civic to beat a lid/catback ls1. prove it. because if not, this whole website will soon know you are full of sh*t. ive proven what i say MANY times, i can do it many MORE times if i have to. yet no one else on this forum has proven me wrong yet. and it wont happen.

 

Wow, that makes LOADS of sense. How do you figure? A car that starts w/ 200+hp more than your honduh, and then has some sort of FI *will* be faster than that honduh w/ the same FI. No If's, And's, or But's about it.

I have seen TONS of video's off of honduh-tech that have shown a civic w/ 18psi, versus and LS1 w/ catback and a lid, and they think their honduh is the hottest sh*t in the world Kinda like yourself when you use back-less logic to back yourself up.
I am YET to see you "prove your point" with REAL WORLD LOGIC, and not some sort of ricer-logic

 

I will say when I owned and modified imports it was kinda of funny subject around other import enthusiest. It was always the subject of how "so and so's" modded to hell import beat a stock "name V8 car here" and it was somehow an acomplishment. But the counter arguement from domestics back then was always...well mod for mod if I had what you had on my car I would have beat you. I never quite understood the logic of it all.But the bottom line is If you race someone and you lose. Accept the lost..don't go talking about parts that you don't have or times that you can't run... based on "If" scenarios.

THere are many imports out there...some are fast some aren't...these many domestic cars out there... Most are fast...and well.... a few aren't. Just make sure when you line up at that red light... the other guy is part of the "Many" and not the "few".

 

But the thing is, you are talking a 3 thousand dollar "mod" against a bone-stock Camaro. Obviously, if your civic is pushing 25psi, it's gonna be an ugly race for the Camaro.
When taht boosted civic wins, he thinks it's an accomplishment to hand somebody 3g's for a turbo, and then just push the accelerator and win.

 

ive tried to be nice all along, but you really DONT know wtf you are talking about do you? boost pressure has very little to do with hp output.

let me ask you something. hypothetically here, say i have an ls1 and i want to turbo it. which would be the better turbo for my car with a near stock redline (lets say 6500 rpms)?

A. T70
B. T76
C. T88
D. None of the above

if no one answers before you do, i bet you get it wrong. and how is it suddenly worse to "hand somebody 3g's for a turbo, and then just push the accelerator and win." than it is to hand someone 25-30k for a (then) brand new ls1 and run the same times? that has nothing to do with this arguement anyway.

and lastly, not a single person on this site has proven my "ricer-logic" wrong.

 

The turbo civic beat the turbo fbody, didnt it? and both had FI. one had 560 tq the other had 250 tq remind me again who won?

 

Who really cares anyway.?The civic is lighter. Thats why. The civic probally had alot of other mods and the camaro was probally close to stock besides the turbo. 560lbs is'nt that high for a turbo 346inch V8. My supercharged 310inch make 650lbs.
But whats a civic owner gonna due when he lines up against a car such as a LS1 with a 427 stroker, race ported AFR's,sheetmtal intake, and a big 'ole turbo.
The fasteset turbo V8's are still faster than the fastest turbo civics. I personally saw Chuck Samuel run 6.29@220mph in a single turbo mustang a couple of years ago.Mike Moran has a twin turbo late model Monte carlo that runs in pro street and thinks he can get it to run 5 second quaters. Has a civic even ran a 6.99 yet?I thought Lisa Kumo was the first front wheel drive car to run 7's with an american made scion last season? Its funny that the first front wheel drive car to run 7's was an american car!! SWEET
To bad we did'nt live closer too. I'd like to race you along with that Evo.

 

The turbo civic beat the turbo fbody, didnt it?

 

that particular basicly stock beides turbo LS1 lost to a highly modded turbo civic. I admit. The civic won. Am I impressed? Not really.
But that does'nt mean that all turbo civics are faster than all turbo F bodies.
But there are F bodies out there that are quicker than the fasest civic's though.