"that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
10 psi more for the LS1 would close that gap 
But ya, when I have time I will jump on AIM. I have been busy today w/ dealing w/ new Camaro parts, running all around to some damned town like, 15 towns over, and then dropping the g/f off at work and then picking her up.
Jerermy, 400 blocks have come in Firebirds (in the 60s and *maybe* 70's) amongst other things, not just RV's

But ya, when I have time I will jump on AIM. I have been busy today w/ dealing w/ new Camaro parts, running all around to some damned town like, 15 towns over, and then dropping the g/f off at work and then picking her up.
Jerermy, 400 blocks have come in Firebirds (in the 60s and *maybe* 70's) amongst other things, not just RV's
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
That was a good video... I remembr posting a video with that evo beating an LS-1...
I honestly don't see why everyone things that evo is so spectacular. AL lthe races I've seen with that car are from a roll. With the setup on that car... it's strong point is definantly it's top end. Half the battle on a AWD car is the launch. I'm sure if those same races where from a dead stop... just like we do at the track... it be a different story. It's a nice car nonetheless and very fast. I just don't give that car that much credit.
I honestly don't see why everyone things that evo is so spectacular. AL lthe races I've seen with that car are from a roll. With the setup on that car... it's strong point is definantly it's top end. Half the battle on a AWD car is the launch. I'm sure if those same races where from a dead stop... just like we do at the track... it be a different story. It's a nice car nonetheless and very fast. I just don't give that car that much credit.
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by GotBoost?
hmm I hook on the street and I make enough tq to run 11's in my honda so obviously I dont need as much tq as a 3500 lbs car, I wonder why? I mean a v8 with 500 foot lb traps 120's in the 1/4 a honda with 500 foot lbs traps close to 160mph which one is laughable? no seriously, who has more useable tq? doesnt anyone grasp the concept that lighter cars dont need high tq numbers?
btw that camaro was definatly spraying his car has never raced n/a before, its a low compression motor and was built 2 months ago ask me how I know...
btw that camaro was definatly spraying his car has never raced n/a before, its a low compression motor and was built 2 months ago ask me how I know...
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by 85_305
10 psi more for the LS1 would close that gap 
But ya, when I have time I will jump on AIM. I have been busy today w/ dealing w/ new Camaro parts, running all around to some damned town like, 15 towns over, and then dropping the g/f off at work and then picking her up.
Jerermy, 400 blocks have come in Firebirds (in the 60s and *maybe* 70's) amongst other things, not just RV's

But ya, when I have time I will jump on AIM. I have been busy today w/ dealing w/ new Camaro parts, running all around to some damned town like, 15 towns over, and then dropping the g/f off at work and then picking her up.
Jerermy, 400 blocks have come in Firebirds (in the 60s and *maybe* 70's) amongst other things, not just RV's

heatmaker, how prey-tell is AWD hard to launch? what you people dont get is even a 600whp civic can hook from a dig. there are traction control units and gear based boost controllers available. that will take ALL of the wheel spin out of launch one.
Patrick, do a search on the name rawazzlt1. thats the same person, he posted pics a while back of all his parts but i dunno if any of the links still work or not.
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by Patrick kelly
you're correct econo-shyt-box-gutted-tin-can-mobiles don't need tq to run fast... so enlighten us all about your b18, or what ever it is you worked up, or you'll get 

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heatmaker, how prey-tell is AWD hard to launch? what you people dont get is even a 600whp civic can hook from a dig. there are traction control units and gear based boost controllers available. that will take ALL of the wheel spin out of launch one.
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I'm not really interested in this kiddie war here...but most of the people I hang around with own EV0's and STi's. THey all have the same problem... and that's launching the car. AWD cars aren't made for launches and runway drags thier design is for cornering and maximum traction.
talking about cars here is like batteling a magazine racer. You people lack real world experience. Your theoriesare based on assumptions of what someone else told you.
heatmaker, how prey-tell is AWD hard to launch? what you people dont get is even a 600whp civic can hook from a dig. there are traction control units and gear based boost controllers available. that will take ALL of the wheel spin out of launch one.
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I'm not really interested in this kiddie war here...but most of the people I hang around with own EV0's and STi's. THey all have the same problem... and that's launching the car. AWD cars aren't made for launches and runway drags thier design is for cornering and maximum traction.
talking about cars here is like batteling a magazine racer. You people lack real world experience. Your theoriesare based on assumptions of what someone else told you.
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by 87camracer
10 psi for an ls1 would spell disaster with the heads lifting. and FWIW, the 400 blocks in the firebirds were completely different. theya re BOP blocks (buick, olds pontiac). they wont bolt up to any sbc mounts and takes quite a bit of work to get in a chevy car.
heatmaker, how prey-tell is AWD hard to launch? what you people dont get is even a 600whp civic can hook from a dig. there are traction control units and gear based boost controllers available. that will take ALL of the wheel spin out of launch one.
Patrick, do a search on the name rawazzlt1. thats the same person, he posted pics a while back of all his parts but i dunno if any of the links still work or not.
heatmaker, how prey-tell is AWD hard to launch? what you people dont get is even a 600whp civic can hook from a dig. there are traction control units and gear based boost controllers available. that will take ALL of the wheel spin out of launch one.
Patrick, do a search on the name rawazzlt1. thats the same person, he posted pics a while back of all his parts but i dunno if any of the links still work or not.
There are CHEVY 400 blocks, so it would be my best guess that the Camaro in that vid is running the CHEVY 400
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by Heatmaker
talking about cars here is like batteling a magazine racer. You people lack real world experience. Your theoriesare based on assumptions of what someone else told you.
As much as you import boys want to deny it, your days of fun in the sun with turbos and beating domestics are growing dim, and the millions of flamewar threads on the net are proving that jealousy. American small blocks, while almost late in the game, are catching on and taking full advantage of it. And with damn strong blocks from the factory, they have a lot of room to grow with more boost. LT1/4 blocks have eclipsed 900-1000rwhp on many occasions, some iron Ford modular blocks have been to 1500hp without splitting, LQ4 blocks have broken the 1500hp barrier (basically a bigger-cube iron LS1 block), and if that's not easy enough there's some aftermarket blocks that aren't very pricey (~$2000 for a DART gen1 SBC block that's broken the 2000hp barrier many times, and can be punched out to 450+ cubes) with some amazing heads available to go with them. I'm not an import hater or basher, as many (if not most) of my racing buddies are tinkering with those cars..... but 90% of the owners don't have a clue about what the V8 crowd is doing with little hair-dryers of their own and talk a lot of junk about it. And it's about time they become educated so we can all get along for once.
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by Fast Caddie
I agree, there's a LOT of misinformation in this thread. 10psi is a head-lifting problem for LS1s? Tell that to Matt Harlan, his LS1-blocked firehawk is running low 8s with twins and ~18-20psi. MIGHTYMOUSE's turbo LS1 formula is closing in fast on 900rwhp with 18psi. Or tell that to the man who built that turbocharged 1560hp+ LQ4 (there's a big thread about it on LS1Tech).... you can find a lot of info about these cars and others similar to them over on LS1Tech. Most 350s (gen1, LT1/4, LS1/6, etc etc) with worked top ends make well in the 900rwhp+ area with 18-20psi. Rick Intrau's turbo 396 LT1 made 1230rwhp with only 23psi (and that's a stock LT block). There's many, many more out there making insane power.
Well, there you have it Boy Rice; 18-psi on an LS1 w/ 900hp. Take that and shove it up your mAd tYte civic tailpipes!
Fast Caddie, you need to get onto hondatech's kill-section and show those rice boys what 18psi will do on an LS1! (They think that their civic's w/ 18+psi are the bomb
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Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by 85_305
Wow.. are you freaking serious? 18psi w/ 900 hp? But thats impossible.. a mAd TyTe CIVIC w/ 18psi will just *barely* take a LS1 w/ lid and an exhaust. There must be something wrong w/ the numbers you posted, because according to all the honduh-boyz, 18-psi on a civic will give you like, 300hp!!!!11!!one
Well, there you have it Boy Rice; 18-psi on an LS1 w/ 900hp. Take that and shove it up your mAd tYte civic tailpipes!
Fast Caddie, you need to get onto hondatech's kill-section and show those rice boys what 18psi will do on an LS1! (They think that their civic's w/ 18+psi are the bomb
)
Well, there you have it Boy Rice; 18-psi on an LS1 w/ 900hp. Take that and shove it up your mAd tYte civic tailpipes!
Fast Caddie, you need to get onto hondatech's kill-section and show those rice boys what 18psi will do on an LS1! (They think that their civic's w/ 18+psi are the bomb
)Last edited by Big Red Jim; May 26, 2005 at 10:26 PM.
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by Big Red Jim
You really need to get it into your head that boost is almost meaningless. 18psi from a T51R is not the same as 18psi from a 12b.
Re: "that" Evo getting worked by a Camaro
Originally Posted by Big Red Jim
You really need to get it into your head that boost is almost meaningless. 18psi from a T51R is not the same as 18psi from a 12b.


