That Evo is fast, no doubt. It has a lot of money, tuning, and effort into it also. And if he's having to run that much boost to get 600whp, i don't see it going too much further than it is now. I know the headaches of trying to build an engine to eat 30psi+ of boost and have any sort of reliability... it ain't easy. Or cheap either. You have to have tuning and parts on the cutting edge to handle it (losing gaskets and high IATs are the main issues, which inherently bring fuel and ignition issues into picture too due to the high heat... and they're a lot harder to deal with than most think. IMO it's harder to deal with those issues than build an engine and drivetrain that can handle the power that level of boost can make. Royal PITA).

I still don't get why everyone on the net gets their panties all in a wad when cars like this Evo come around. Moderate-built LT1s, LS1s, modulars, and 5.0s hit 600rwhp and deep 10s without breaking a sweat on pump gas with 12-15psi boost running through them. And that's just scratching the surface of their potential. Even today, the only "small" engined car that impresses me is the supra. And even that is beginning to fade as more and more domestics discover the power potential in turbos and push these cars ever so faster every year. These last 2 years have been particularly exciting for the 4th gen F-bodies. Too bad damned GM ceased their production just as a true performance aftermarket for them started to blossom.

 

I can't really tell you why you should get excited, but I can tell you what excites me about it - having built fast cars of my own.

This Evo will happily idle in rush hour traffic with the a/c blasting on a hot day, and be just as comfortable blasting through the snow in the winter time. For people living up North like me that's a boon. No matter how good snow tires have gotten, AWD cannot be beaten for winter weather.

And after running a few 10 second slips at the drag strip, this car can be taken straight over to a road course (without changing wheels/tires/suspension) and outrun 911's all day long. That's pretty damn impressive to me.

But again, that's just me. If you don't like it, it's really no skin off my back.

 

I just went for a ride in my buddies VW GTI over my lunch break. That thing is insanely fast for a little s**tbox car!!! 315 WHP with an aftermarket turbo, software, and a huge intercooler. He's doing more tuning soon and hopes to creep up around 340 WHP. That's at 22 psi of boost. I think I may need to sell my Z now and buy a VW!

 

Again this is a camaro site so who would have thought
anyway imo a trailor queen is a non legal street car...some are trailored to the track because the owner doesnt want to take a chance of possibly braking down...it some cases the car would make it there and back w/ no problem.

 

If my car got 4 MPG I would trailor it everywhere...

 

then i guess it's not a "real" street car... @ that point if you have to trailor it just to run it on the street, it's a race car not a street car... i would rather watch street cars, but even the trailor queens are fun to watch, just not so much so to myself...
my brother gets 6 to 8mpg in his 9.-teens chevelle and he drives it to and from the hangout spot and may on occasion throw a street race in, but when @ the track it's on a bed... but he wouldn't trailor it in to the hangout spot and unload it just to hang out, everyone would laugh @ him if he did...

 

The camaro has no interior, or exhaust, why is this even a debate? just like the other rguy said, if this was a trailored honda people would be sayings its a track car. and would even make it very clear that it started the race 3 cars ahead. but nobody wants to mention that. its obviousl this isnt a street car but it feels good to say an fbody FINALLY took out the EVO so everyone is running off with it like its a personal victory.

 

its not street car ....


"What everybody is missing is that it was a big deal with over a week of going back and fourth for this race to happen. The 67 Camaro is ALWAYS trailered EVERYWHERE, even 30 miles to the street scene. It has run a 6.1@109 in the 1/8. It's a .060 over 400 with Pro Topline Heads, big giant cam, turns around 7500 RPM's, powerglide, 4.11's, big converter. He has been calling out all the street cars around since he got his new engine but wont admit his car isnt a real street car. It's a gutted trailer queen, he is a my buddy and all but he needs to admit his car isnt a driver.

It was funny that they trailered it from another dude's house in town, like 10 miles because they said it's too loud to drive. It was also funny that they had some back from the track over in Mobile that night and had like a whole crew with Wilson Pro Flow team shirts on lol. Big crew just to run the Evo.

What everybody keeps forgetting is, Chris with the Evo isnt done with the car, lol. He didnt spray against Cobraboz, first car he has sprayed against was Bryan in the 67 Camaro. Oh and since hardly anybody is smart enough to make the damn connection, READ the words in the video, he made 601 on 30 PSI He is running 33-35 when he races, meaning, lets see if some of you can follow, it makes MORE than 601. Jeeeeze, is that so ****in hard to grasp?"

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...8&page=6&pp=25

 

A domestic taking out an import? OH'z NO'z!!!!!!!! Like thats un-normal
A car w/ all-wheel drive w/ 30+lbs of freaking boost? Wow.. that's a LOT of boost for an "amazing" import, against the Camaro's how many lb's of boost? Oh, thats right, the Camaro HAS NO BOOST. My bad

 

Matt the car has a 442 cid motor and a 300 shot. 300 shot as in power adder bro its a 122cid motor with power adder vs a 442cid motor with a power adder. come one man btw havent seen u on aim lately

 

^Actually, it's a 400-block Geoff The 300 shot wasn't even used in the race I dont believe.
But the typical rice statement, you know, "the replacement for displacement is F/I"... well, obviously it's not *too* much of a replacement if a HEAVILY boosted awd car can't keep up with a 40 year old, n/a push-rod V8

EDIT: Ya, sorry I havn't been on AIM lately; I have been REALLY busy w/ getting the last of my Camaro parts in, finishing work on the Camaro, school, and work in general
But prolly closer to the end of the week I will be on aim

 

Im not gonna pretend I know dsm's all that much but I have noticed that they run serious boost and dont make numbers. like 35psi on a honda would be about 780whp not 601 like this evo. I mean the evo is fast but that isnt even almost close to what is out there as far as BUILT street 4 banger imports.

here is 35psi on a honda http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1177795&page=3

 

You have to consider that this has 601"AWD" horsepower. That's a lot more drivetrain loss than FWD.

TONY

 

you forgot the tq # for honda's... which is usually laughable... and the price for building a honda with those #'s is usually 2 times as much for a honda (lot's of block work)... and the best part about fast honda's... no traction on the street...

 

lol @ didn't spray... i guess the evo had it's boost set @ 18 lbs (close to factory)... heck even when my brother races 11 second cars he sprays (he runs 9's)

if that camaro has a 40 year old motor(not rebuilt) then i'd be really impressed