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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Did you buy your car used? Any possibility of mods you don't know about? Something internal/hidden? To run 107 your talking 60-70 hp over stock. That doesn't happen with exhaust and mail order tune, even in alaska.

Originally Posted by buzz12586
You can call BS all you want. It was an amazing day weather wise. The next weekend I went my times were all 13.15-13.25.
My car is not bone stock but still pretty close to it. Like I said before, I don't sweat 350Zs


Here is the whole time slip:


R/T -.160
60 1.890
330 5.467
1/8 8.406
MPH 83.70
1000 10.937
1/4 13.071
MPH 107.85


Oh I forgot to add one mod, Pro 5.0 shifter
Old Feb 14, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yellavette
Did you buy your car used? Any possibility of mods you don't know about? Something internal/hidden? To run 107 your talking 60-70 hp over stock. That doesn't happen with exhaust and mail order tune, even in alaska.
It is what it is man. I can see him running a 13.07 with his mods and tires. I can see him trapping a couple mph less than his slip says but its not enough to throw a bs flag. One kid here had a 93 Z28 (exhaust, intake, tune) and was running 14.0-14.1's @96ish. He put on a set of ET streets and his 1/4 time dropped to a 13.5 @97. And our track is at 2500ft.
Old Feb 14, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Bone stock with no mods and Hankook 235 touring tires, I ran a 14.0 with a 2.2 second 60'.

Keep in mind every 1/10 in the 60' is worth 1.5 to 2.0 in the 1/4 mile.

A dead stock car hooking a 1.8-1.9 should throw down a time something like 0.7 sec faster (torque is torque, so mildly modded vs. stock would be about equal for the 1st 2 seconds or so).

13.2 is an unbelievable time for a near stock LT1, but hey... some dude jumped out of a plane, had both 'chutes fail, fell to hard earth and still lived. I saw it on the Today Show on NBC this week.

Without cthings like that, we wouldn't have Ripley's Believe it or Not.
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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EDIT:

1/10 60' equals 0.15 to 0.20, not full seconds. Helps to get the decimal place in the right spot.
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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When I first got the car on street tires and with a catback it went 14.05 @ 100 on like 2.2-2.3 60ft. I then added the CAI, tune, and Nitto DRs. My best for a while then was 13.62 @ 102 on a 2.1 60ft. Then added a Pro 5.0 shifter and got better at driving it and went 13.48 @ 103 on a 2.03 60ft. Perfect weather at the beginning of November and I went 13.07 @ 107.85 on a 1.89 60ft. Then the next weekend it was 13.18 @ 105 on a 1.93 60ft.

There is no reason for me to come on here and try to BS everyone, thats retarded. I know what I ran and what mods I have. If you don't believe me I could really care less. The car currently has a blown headgasket so the motor is being redone while its out. If you want I can take pictures of the #'s on the cam to prove it is stock.
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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^ ^ isn't it so typical that an engine always runs its best just before it blows?! (in your case, luckily just a gasket ).
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Ha maybe, I did make the mistake of overheating it once. A couple weeks later is when the gasket gave up.
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlither
Okay, that's better!
Yeah, you get used to talking about tenths as though they are an actual number. (ie: "I sixty-footed him by two tenths!") It means so much in dragging that every 1/10 of a second has weight.

Very different than in autocross or road race.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellis
EDIT:

1/10 60' equals 0.15 to 0.20, not full seconds. Helps to get the decimal place in the right spot.
Damn I was getting real excited about my new stall and MTs. Going from 2.2 60s to 1.6 would have got me easily into the single digits!!
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by yellavette
Did you buy your car used? Any possibility of mods you don't know about? Something internal/hidden? To run 107 your talking 60-70 hp over stock. That doesn't happen with exhaust and mail order tune, even in alaska.
Why is it so hard to believe that there are well-tuned, good running LT1's?

I believe his times are quite realistic. Maybe not the norm but definately not out of the ordinary. My car ran a best of 13.9 bone stock with a 2.1 60'. I was running very similar times with the same mods as him. I have added a few more and my times reflect that as well.

I personally raced a 350Z with a single turbo kit and he lost to my bolt-on LT1. I expected disbelief from him but not from within the f-body/gto/vette community.

Give the LT1 it's props.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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You think those numbers are realistic?? Your car ran a 13.9 bone stock. You didn't list a mph, but I'm sure it's close to 100. Are you telling me you think it's "quite realistic" to pick up .82 seconds (almost an entire second) and 7 mph from adding a catback and a semi-generic tune?

That's like my GTO running 12.5@111 with those same mods. See what I'm saying?

I love my car too, but try to be objective.

Originally Posted by 97ChameleonTA
Why is it so hard to believe that there are well-tuned, good running LT1's?

I believe his times are quite realistic. Maybe not the norm but definately not out of the ordinary. My car ran a best of 13.9 bone stock with a 2.1 60'. I was running very similar times with the same mods as him. I have added a few more and my times reflect that as well.

I personally raced a 350Z with a single turbo kit and he lost to my bolt-on LT1. I expected disbelief from him but not from within the f-body/gto/vette community.

Give the LT1 it's props.

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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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I wouldn't call it disbelief really; it's just that even if you look around this site you'll see the Average Joe isn't going to get those results from those mods on an LT1. A driver can affect the ET but the trap is all engine.

Buzz is doing 107 mph with basically an intake, catback, and tune. Is there really 70 more hp in just those mods? If there is, why isn't everyone else with the same mods going that fast? There are a lot of people who have been modding a long time without doing that well with the basic mods.

He had drag radials so the 13.0 is entirely plausible with the given mph; it's just how that trap was reached that's harder to grasp.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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It's not that I don't believe you, I just think there's more in your car than what you think. Ever had it dyno'd? 107 puts you at or over 300 rwhp. You just don't get 300 rwhp from a catback and tune. Either your not hip to all your cars mods or your lying. I'm not trying to be rude, but numbers don't lie. People do.

Originally Posted by buzz12586
When I first got the car on street tires and with a catback it went 14.05 @ 100 on like 2.2-2.3 60ft. I then added the CAI, tune, and Nitto DRs. My best for a while then was 13.62 @ 102 on a 2.1 60ft. Then added a Pro 5.0 shifter and got better at driving it and went 13.48 @ 103 on a 2.03 60ft. Perfect weather at the beginning of November and I went 13.07 @ 107.85 on a 1.89 60ft. Then the next weekend it was 13.18 @ 105 on a 1.93 60ft.

There is no reason for me to come on here and try to BS everyone, thats retarded. I know what I ran and what mods I have. If you don't believe me I could really care less. The car currently has a blown headgasket so the motor is being redone while its out. If you want I can take pictures of the #'s on the cam to prove it is stock.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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There ya go!

Originally Posted by John M
I wouldn't call it disbelief really; it's just that even if you look around this site you'll see the Average Joe isn't going to get those results from those mods on an LT1. A driver can affect the ET but the trap is all engine.

Buzz is doing 107 mph with basically an intake, catback, and tune. Is there really 70 more hp in just those mods? If there is, why isn't everyone else with the same mods going that fast? There are a lot of people who have been modding a long time without doing that well with the basic mods.

He had drag radials so the 13.0 is entirely plausible with the given mph; it's just how that trap was reached that's harder to grasp.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Look at my mod list and what I run and you can understand why I believe his times are realistic. By the math above I should be 110RWHP over stock because I trap almost 111. Do you really believe that?

My MPH on the bone stock runs was usually between 100 and 101, which is what most bone stock 350Z's trap, only 10 years later...

Like I said, his times AND MPH, while not the norm, are far from unbelievable. Keep an open mind. You come across as accusational when you keep at the guy for running a good time and MPH. I'm not the one that is having trouble being objective.



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