I think Dan must work for Comp

Rich

 

I got that impression too . Pretty typical to blame the customer for the
companys f*** up This crap is happening in the masses and all
Comp can do is point the finger at the customer I will NEVER put
another Comp Cams product on ANY of my cars ever again ! The Comp R
lifters , 918 beehives more than once , etc. I wont chance ruining my
investments on some company that only gives a damn about their profit margin

 

Actually this isn't completely Comp's fault.... it's esentially the problem that has developed from the market being flooded with crappy cheap products from south of the border. The problem here is a standard problem in todays manufacturing industry, too many companies quote large group orders of products to gain a new contract. In turn they don't have the development of the orginal design and manufacture and miss a detail, which ends up with issues like we are seeing here. Comp has to compete with companies that flood the market with cheap manufactured goods,(cough, cough Patriot) because in the end the average customer still votes on price before they vote on quality. We have seen this before in LT1 land with the CM612 springs and the failures and valve float associated with them.

In the end the parts Comp actually makes IN HOUSE are excellent (camshafts) and the associated hardware is nice as well for the price. If you guys want 100% unbreakable parts then your paying in a ballpark where EVERYTHING is multiples of the price you are paying now. The only way around that is knowledge, hence the reason Lloyd and I averted this problem as early as possible. Professional engine builders around the country building for racing classes in the ranks of NHRA, NASCAR, Grand American, etc.... all still use their cams day in and day out. Remember they can't make everything they sell, but that doesn't mean they don't have a responsability for everything else.

It still baffles me as to why they switched suppliers, the prices for the Comp retailers went up for the products but the quality of the product went down. I'm sure all this heat they are getting because of these failures now is going down the food chain to the purchasing agent and then the production engineers who make the springs.

So let's just look at this realisiticly.

Bad parts can plauge anyone, teams with $15mill in sponsorship a year can have failures and lose points and prize money that really hurts them. Problem is when it's the little guy who has a loss it hurts him more than it hurts the big dollar guys.

Bret

 

Then the price should have gone down. I lost all respect for comp when I found out the only difference beteen the $85 trickflow pushrods and the $145 comp pushrods is the name etched on them... They are the same pushrods made by the same place.

 

Lloyd Elliot built my heads.
Nuff said.

I would have asked GOD almighty himself to build my heads but he was too busy designing the next LSx engine.

I cant believe that after reading all the posts on all the forums that a statement like this can even be crafted.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck guess what? IT IS PROBABLY A DUCK.

Comp has contacted me and I must say they are very eager to work with those that are having problems. I had a lengthy discussion and feel comfortable they will make things good again.

 

Just for reference I have 6000 miles on my 918's, 236/242
.555/.570 cam with nsa 1.6 pro mags. All installed as close to 1.800" as possible. Stock heads have been ported but have never been machined at the spring seat. I have comp retainers with +.50 10 degree locks.

I bought my springs from Summitracing APRIL 20, 2006.

 

A big part of why Comp is suddenly taking these failures seriously is because of us. The reason why we haven't been on the forums much until now is because we just finished our webstore last week. That and we've been hitting the drag racing circuit pretty hard lately.

 

Thanks for the links. I will forward them to Comp.

Rich

 

Have you put your car on a dyno? When I had mine setup at 1.78-1.8" I was getting valve float at 5800 RPM's.

 

Havent had it on a dyno, what are your cam specs? It pulls strong up to 6800 seat-of-the-pants, and sure doesnt feel like there is any valve float. I set my own springs up so I know exactly what height theyre at.

 

No problem

 

Same here.. LE2's and love em!

And I ordered my replacements directly from PAC.. Spoke with them on the phone for quite a while and am confident that the 1218's will suit me perfectly..

 

you can't be serious......

224/224 .567/.567 113 LSA, XE lobe (NOT XE-R) The freaking DEFINITION of a mild cam...

no seat machining, titanium retainers, stock rockers, I don't know the installed height, but I think if this particular installer put them on the heads incorrectly, it probably would have shown up on at least one of the HUNDREDS OF PAST LSx CARS HIS SHOP HAS TURNED OUT.....

 

Except that Comp has admitted to several people now that there were defective batches of springs.

I guess he could be working for Comp's supplier....

 

I had one of the bad batchis called red at comp in-service last week he told me no questions asked they would make it right with me. I sent them in he called me yesterday. And asked me what I wanted a refund or credit for comp stuff lets just say. He made me very very happy. They do know they had a problem just call them no questions asked they'll take them back tell them what your would rather have in return. There's no reason to cause a fuss they are owning up to the mistake. He has been really flooded with calls and returns. But I'll tell you my springs weren't installed. Don't know what they would do if you had them installed. But I'm sure they'll make it worth your wild I think they are taking back all springs in 06 but call them to see