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Who has seen 918 beehive springs do this?

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Old May 1, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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i had one of mine break identically to the one pictured although i believe mine was due to not having the correct retainers and have since got the beehive retainers and have had no more probs
Old May 1, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Are the new springs ok. I'm getting ready to buy some and don't want to have to do a teardown twice.
Old May 2, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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I talked to AFR many, many years ago about springs. They were going on some 8 second quarter mile engines I use to build for a several teams in the Chicago area.

I was told then that new springs should always be placed in a bench vise (protected on both ends with something like pieces of 2"x4") and compressed to coil bind.

Let them sit that way , bound up, for several minutes, then installed. I was told this serves to stress relieve them; they'd last longer and hold pressure much better.

Now, remember, this was told to me close to 20 years ago, so things may have changed since then. Might be a good idea to give 'em a call and see if that advice is still valid with the new springs of today.

You could also give Reher & Morrison a call in Arlington, TX and ask them how they keep they're springs alive. I've talked to them several times over the years -those guys LOVE to talk engines - and they were always very helpful to me.

Hope this helps.

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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JAKEJR
I was told then that new springs should always be placed in a bench vise (protected on both ends with something like pieces of 2"x4") and compressed to coil bind.

Let them sit that way , bound up, for several minutes, then installed. I was told this serves to stress relieve them; they'd last longer and hold pressure much better.
I race for Southard Racing here and we have two alcohol dragsters and one is a big block and was notorious for breaking springs. Havent had as many problems since we started doing this. Owner of the team knew of this trick from "back in the day" and hasn't been a huge problem since...only had a couple. Of course, these weren't the 918's, but maybe it would work...
Old May 2, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Yep, I use to do it to all the K-Motion springs we ran on BBs (none of the guys were running SBs).

Guess I'm really telling my age. LOL

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Old May 3, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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I had 8 out of 16 break in the EXACT same place. I posted about it earlier this last winter. I now run the patriot golds.
Old May 28, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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I think the valve springs (918s) speak for themselves. See pic and thread:
YES, 10 of 16 were broken on my engine.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1715377


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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 11sec_z06
I think the valve springs (918s) speak for themselves. See pic and thread:
YES, 10 of 16 were broken on my engine.

http://http://forums.corvetteforum.c....php?t=1715377

Yikes, isolated incendent not so isolated now
Old May 29, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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I'm sure that the springs are great----that they are the latest in design and all that stuff, but.....when I first heard of a valve spring that was shaped like a bee hive, I said to myself...."self" it will be cold day in hell when I buy something like that unless someone --other than the manufacturer) can give me a factual run-down on why a behive shaped spring should be superior to the traditional spring.

I know that everyone jumps on the ole band wagon when something like this comes out and before long they are the greatest thing since suspenders.
But no thanks. I shall stay with the tried and true until it is proven beyond doubt that behive springs are the have-to have spring.JMHO
Old May 29, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BUBBA
I'm sure that the springs are great----that they are the latest in design and all that stuff, but.....when I first heard of a valve spring that was shaped like a bee hive, I said to myself...."self" it will be cold day in hell when I buy something like that unless someone --other than the manufacturer) can give me a factual run-down on why a behive shaped spring should be superior to the traditional spring.

I know that everyone jumps on the ole band wagon when something like this comes out and before long they are the greatest thing since suspenders.
But no thanks. I shall stay with the tried and true until it is proven beyond doubt that behive springs are the have-to have spring.JMHO
I see your point, I think, anyways, they solved my problem. Oh and by the way, I do buy the theory of better harmonics. But then again, don't let that have any bearing on your choice of spring.
Old May 29, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 11sec_z06
I think the valve springs (918s) speak for themselves. See pic and thread:
YES, 10 of 16 were broken on my engine.

http://http://forums.corvetteforum.c....php?t=1715377

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1715377

Corrected link....
Old May 30, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Does anyone have the batch #'s on these springs? I bought mine december 06 and want to see if I have the same batch as the ones that are breaking.
Old Jun 2, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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i just ordered a set of 918's to replace my whopped out stockers, lets hope they dont break!! but on a side note i have a set in my 97 SS and never had a problem with them.
Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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The question in my mind now is, what springs to use now? I'm beginning to plan out my valve train for a cam swap and the 918's were going to be the springs to use. I just don't want to run any risks, I keep seeing these break.
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28LT1_Just_Nasty
The question in my mind now is, what springs to use now? I'm beginning to plan out my valve train for a cam swap and the 918's were going to be the springs to use. I just don't want to run any risks, I keep seeing these break.
No you don't, their a popular spring and are hard to beat for many applications. There was a bad batch once, but that can happen. Even if it happens again, it would not shy me away from these springs.



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