Being that last time I ran the quarter, i trapped at 95...i think your correct.

 

[sarcasm]I am not sure You are up to the challenge of beating a stock 97 GT withe a 383 with NOS Hmmmm [/sarcasm off] Sure thing once the Mustang is "heavily modified" Your on
all the trouble? roughly $1000 and a weekends work is all the trouble? wow and no one said anything about "pulverize" just that the 99+ stangs and the LT1's are about even, which was the original conversation that me and a friend had, I don't think I ever stated that i was talking about my car specificly, I did in fact mention that a 96-98 GT with the head swap is right there with it too though

and just for the sake of arguement he paid 12k for his Z and I paid 9k for the GT lets add the $1000 to that price and I am still under by $2000 but thats not what my question was about , was just looking for some real world numbers

 

7 pages for Stock LT1 #'s.. Geez.. I went 13.9@99.8ona 2.160ft Didyou find what you were looking for??? LoL

 

Verts (like mine) are slower due to extra weight. Mine's an M6. On the original crappy Goodyear RS-A's it ran 14.4 @ 92+mph with granny shifting. The 60' was a pitiful 2.2sec.

The 5.0 (esp. the notchback) is one of the greatest factory cars ever built in terms of results/$ with modding. There are some wicked fast one's around here with relatively few $$$ invested. My friend Jerry has one with a 331 stroker, iron heads, S-trim with no water or intercooler and runs mid 10's at 130mph. It would take a lot more hp to get a 4th gen down to those times. The light weight is abig factor in this, which is a big problem with the 4th gen. I have been less than impressed with the later models as platforms for modding. They are sweet as stock street cars though, especially considering the non-existant competition! But I have not been impressed with how they respond to mods.

OTOH, for a street or street/strip car, the 4th gen really has it all over the Mustang due to better motor (stock v. stock), handling, brakes, transmission (at least the M6), etc. Especially the LS1 cars, of course you can't buy a new one any longer

Rich Krause

 

I was just going to chime in with this...


Those stangs were REALLY once demensional cars and all they really have goin for them is weight and parts are a bit cheaper- although they need parts we dont (well for a while at least like injectors, throttle body and intake manifold).

Handling, looks and interior

Fox body : camaro as camaro :corvette (quality aside)

the f-bod may be cheaper to mod and all-
byt the vette has a lot more going for it like interior, extreior and handling

 

A4 + 2.73 + Flowmaster = 13.98 @ 99mph


Simple enough?


The only Stang I lost to is the one I wasn't racing!

 

Seems to me you haven't raced enough
J/K LOL!

 

I don't bite off more than my car can chew, simple really. That and I live where 90% of 5.0's and 4.6 GT's are driven by dumb kids (16-18) who think they have the fastest car in town and leave it all stock or add the famous Flowmaster cat-back.

 

LOL im glad you picked up on my sarcasm.

I have come accross a few newer mustangs when i was running only 373 gears, flowmaster exhaust, CAI, HPP3, 160 stat, and TB bypass. I never lost. I also raced a 98 Cobra, I blew him off my 2 car lengths. Maybe its me, but the Only fast mustangs I have come across were hooked up. An I did get smoked by 3 of them, but they were far from stock. I have never lost to a stock or bolt on modded Mustang.

However with the 383 and NOS itsa whole new game of cars to run with

 

Yeah but you can do that with anything, here watch:

Buy a '93 Z28 for $5k (or less). Purchase a Nitrous kit for $1k with all the goodies/safety items.

*BAM* 360rwhp (give or take) for $6k. Now that's value

- Matt
'96 WS6 A4 ~ Just the basics: K&N Filter, Cut-out, oh, and a 125-shot

 

Camaro vs. Mustang arguments are so pointless and unending. Just like the abortion debate.

If you're going to compare the cars compare them in stock trim year by year. I don't care what an 89 GT with dual superchargers will do to a V6 f-body. All I care and all car manufacturers care about is who the clear winner is year by year. Since '93 the f-body has been dominating. The '03 Cobra got the last laugh. That is all there is to it. With the money any f-body will own anything on the roads and at the track. With money the same can be said about any year mustang.

I'll reiterate my point into a simple sentence: This 7 page thread is a big waste of bandwidth.

 

TriPinTaZ

Ummm something Noone can argue with is that You can buy a 88-93 LX for 2 grand and Mod it for way less and get way More out of it as far as bang for the buck goes, but that wasn't my original question this arguement that Camaro guys always bring up about year Vs Year is one of the funniest things I have ever heard, and IMHO is a Non existant point, and also please show me a 93 LT1 thats not beat to **** for 5k, not gonna happen, I just came off of looking for a car (ended up with the stang) and 93-97 Z28's were in my search as well and there are none for that price, at least in my neck of the woods
Hmmm contradicting no? that statement and then adding to the "waste of bandwidth" with comment number 100

who said anything about an 89GT with "dual superchargers" (lol) or a V6 F-body? I do believe I asked for track times on LT1's auto and stick....please correct me if I am wrong wow some people are a little dramatic eh the fact remains....that Modular 4.6 SOHC 99+ and an LT1 are about even and basically comes down to driver. and yes I will throw in the PI head swapped 96-98's as well

anyways again I thank the guys that didn't flame and just responded with times, Most of you came off cool and some well ... I won't comment

 

post of the week!!

 

Some good points, but I enjoy car talk even if 50% of it is mindless.

I've been thinking about picking up a Mustang to use as a 3-season daily driver. My Camaro is getting beyond the point where I feel like parking it at work, etc., even though it is a lot of fun to drive on the street. So, I definitely agree that we have a lot in common with the Mustang guys. In fact, the whole Ford v. Chevy thing has pretty much petered out. Now American Muscle v. Rice is still alive and kicking, at least in my warped mind!

Rich Krause

 

As for the time see my sig.... that's with the clutch slipping from an oil leak that got worse on the 90 mile drive to the track. It has since been fixed and my cars runs like a hog now but that's beside the point.

96-98 stangs are garbage... I would rather own a yugo. They are not dogs, they are sloths. As for the 99+ I give ford props for actually realizing their advertised numbers. With the new ones I believe the LT1 has a slight advantage but in the end the driver will determine who wins.... mod for mod, f-body takes it. 40 more cubes, higher compression etc. Fbody has T-56, Stang has 12 bolt, for every argument there is always a counterargument (that's why it should stay a discussion and not an argument). The cobras are a different story. Other than the whole IRS issue, the 99 up cobras are bad.

My brother just bought a notchback 89 lx, level 10 aod, 3.55 auburn pro, mac headers and h-pipe blah blah. I mean for what it is it's a cool little car but it is not too fast at all. I mean there are some guys selling some decent mid 90's 4'th gens for 6k (probably talk them down a bit) while this 89 car went for 4800 and can't even skirt em off the line. For a daily driver though, I would schmob it for sure. I like that little swiveling light it has too, that's cool.

All in all, I always have to talk **** about mustangs but when it comes down to it they are the only cars carrying on the brute force v8 legacy... I can't hate on them (wish I had a 12 bolt, now I hate on RICE!!!!!!!