LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

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Old May 23, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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My neighbor has a 99 SVT Cobra (manual) with lower gears (3.73 I think) and catback that runs low-mid 14s everytime down to the track no matter who drives it. My LT1 with just a CAI and Flowmaster went 13.8 @ 101.......

The newer Mustang GT's are nowhere near stock LS1 cars...at least around here....

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Old May 23, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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Hmmmm why is it that alot of the people that are posting times are saying my time was blah blah but that was with a broken this, or Oil was leaking on the clutch or I was on rims no tires they just sound like excuses to me...or that they break a lot hmmmm...it was a simple question because I had a conversation with a friend about it and 99+ stangs and LT1's is a drivers race and thats that...but all I am hearing is excuses and mustangs are trash blah blah blah
96-98 stangs are garbage
same car different heads for the most part as the ones that were just givin "props" too, compression on the 96-98's is 9.0:1 drop the PI heads on and its at 10.5:1 same as the LT1 right? (I could be wrong) and with that done to a pre 99 4.6 it a drivers race

Most of the responses that are being posted here you would think I am talking about your manhood being smaller than mine or something Jeeeeeeeeez guys it was a simple question about STOCK Lt1 Times and most of what i am getting is excuses and my **** is bigger than yours.

once again thanks for the non flames and times
Old May 23, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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man, alot of bashing for a simple question

i went to corral.net and asked the same question and everyones been cool about it

see here http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...light=question
Old May 23, 2003 | 04:54 PM
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In response to a couple of your posts, $1000 and a weekend seems like a lot of time and money to waste to run comparable to a stock LT1 or 4.6. $1000 and a weekend gets most LT1s deep into the twelves (cam, headers, exhaust). But like you said, that is not what this post is all about. I gave you times from my car for both stock and lightly modded as you had asked. I also told you what I thought about 4.6 and LT1 being comparable. It seems to me you simply did not like my answer and felt YOUR manhood was at stake, mine certainly wasn't hurt at all. If it ever came to the point I needed my car to substantiate my manhood though I think I will fare better than average. Oh and yes, the reason for all the excuses from everyone is because they do break a lot (At least mine does).
Old May 23, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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Just took the 96 z28 A4 to the track tues. and 1/8 was 8.8 @ 80.38 and the 1/4 in 13.71 @ 101.16 on a 2.24 60ft with a 15 mph head-wind. The mods on the 96 are k/n filter, cutout, !MAF screen, airfoil, and CSI.
Old May 23, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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In response to a couple of your posts, $1000 and a weekend seems like a lot of time and money to waste to run comparable to a stock LT1 or 4.6.
Hmmm again I ask you to refer to My original post and question and response, I believe it says something along the lines of that the 99+ GT's and LT1's are about even, and the 96-98's with the head swap was brought up and I will still stand by that I can get a 96-98 Gt WITH head swap for roughly the same price as an LT1, and also anyone that owns a car like an LT1 or a Mustang Probably plans on Modding it at some point so the old "I don't have to mod it to get it that fast" don't fly anyone with a 99+ needs not to mod it to be as fast as an LT1 either but You will never hear anything like that coming from someone that owns one

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Oh and yes, the reason for all the excuses from everyone is because they do break a lot (At least mine does).
I can always do the head swap and run it forever while you spend the $1000 fixing Your car...hows that sound?

It seems to me you simply did not like my answer
what answer might that be?
If it ever came to the point I needed my car to substantiate my manhood though I think I will fare better than average.
proves my point I think that You had to address that portion of the post, Ummm this is a Message board for gear heads noone wants to know that "you will fair better than average" what ya got to prove big boy? lol
Old May 23, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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i ran a 13.7@ 102 with CAI, catback, & et streets
Old May 23, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by SteedaBoy97
Hmmm again I ask you to refer to My original post and question and response, I believe it says something along the lines of that the 99+ GT's and LT1's are about even, and the 96-98's with the head swap was brought up and I will still stand by that I can get a 96-98 Gt WITH head swap for roughly the same price as an LT1, and also anyone that owns a car like an LT1 or a Mustang Probably plans on Modding it at some point so the old "I don't have to mod it to get it that fast" don't fly anyone with a 99+ needs not to mod it to be as fast as an LT1 either but You will never hear anything like that coming from someone that owns one


I can always do the head swap and run it forever while you spend the $1000 fixing Your car...hows that sound?


what answer might that be?

proves my point I think that You had to address that portion of the post, Ummm this is a Message board for gear heads noone wants to know that "you will fair better than average" what ya got to prove big boy? lol
Well, you have proved yourself better than I. to the 4.6. to the SteedaBoy97. What started out as an interesting thread comparing 4.6 to LT1s has now turned into a pissing match in which I apparently am outgunned. I came here to offer insight and was met with hostility. I can't even joke about the reliability of my car without an insult. When you want to discuss pros and cons without turning it into something else, I am all game, in the meantime have fun responding to this post, I am done with this thread.
Old May 23, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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There is a lot of trash talkin goin on here. I just want to chime in with a couple of facts about this topic. At the track, heads,cam,and other bolt ons was worth 13.20's in a friends 93 stang. Long tubes,intake,and other bolt ons was worth mid to high 14's on another friends 95 stang. Nothing but stock on my 94 Z28 was worth 13,80's at the track. 97 lt1 with an exaust, conveter, and 150 shot brought out an 11.87@116 at the track. Everyone I'm sure saw the stang on horsepower tv put down 177 rwhp stock. Thats a shame! Obviously i'm a chevy guy, but stangs get torn apart continuosly around my town. Sorry for that info, but its a fact! But on the other hand, I agree with R Krause. Lets settle our diffrences and start beating on the street disease I like to call the BUZZ BOMB AFFLICTION!

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Old May 23, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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What started out as an interesting thread comparing 4.6 to LT1s has now turned into a pissing match
I simply asked a question, and chimed in with My witty retorts where needed, the "pissing match" as You called it was not started by anyone that drives an SN95

<-----and None of this is needed, it was just a question , and if Flames come out of a post just because its from a Mustang guy then so be it, and as far as receiving "Hostility" goes all I did was ask a simple question and got jumped on like a pork chop at a pit bull party.

and as always I thank the people that stuck to the subject and posted times and what not
Old May 23, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by blownbird01
There is a lot of trash talkin goin on here. I just want to chime in with a couple of facts about this topic. At the track, heads,cam,and other bolt ons was worth 13.20's in a friends 93 stang. Long tubes,intake,and other bolt ons was worth mid to high 14's on another friends 95 stang. Nothing but stock on my 94 Z28 was worth 13,80's at the track. 97 lt1 with an exaust, conveter, and 150 shot brought out an 11.87@116 at the track. Everyone I'm sure saw the stang on horsepower tv put down 177 rwhp stock. Thats a shame! Obviously i'm a chevy guy, but stangs get torn apart continuosly around my town. Sorry for that info, but its a fact! But on the other hand, I agree with R Krause. Lets settle our diffrences and start beating on the street disease I like to call the BUZZ BOMB AFFLICTION!
I seen that episode too, and taped it...then 2 hours ago i accidentally taped over it...didnt it start off with like 177, get 11 from CAI, and then like 15 from cat back? Did they put a bigger throttle body in there too? i dont remember
Old May 23, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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didnt it start off with like 177, get 11 from CAI, and then like 15 from cat back?
yes it was 177 before anything, and then they added a CAI , 75mm TB, and a cat back and ended up with 204, I believe it was like $600 worth of parts
Old May 23, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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I personally like Mustangs too, my brother in law had a really sweet 92 LX that was going to be in a few mags before he sold it...problem is he dumped like $3500-$4000 into his car (ported GT-40 heads/intake, B303, cobra rockers, hooker shorties, flows, H-pipe, clutch, 3.73's, MAF, TB, pullies, CAI, maybe some other stuff) and all he could manage was a traction limited 13.5@105. Granted, with traction thats a 12 second car, but still...my car with just a couple more bolt ons will probably run 105mph, and with heads/cam I'll be knocking on 11's...

On the other hand I haven't found an LT1 yet that sounded as sweet as that car did
Old May 24, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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On the other hand I haven't found an LT1 yet that sounded as sweet as that car did
Then you must not have heard the sweet sound of an LT1 with a cut-out!!!

In my opinion, the best sounding exhaust note out there. For some reason though, it just doesn't sound as good on an LS1.

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'96 WS6 A4 ~ Just minor bolt-ons, really officer!!
Old May 24, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Guys,

I've already asked once to leave the trash talking out of this! As has already been mentioned, the question asked is SIMPLE and can be answered in just a couple lines. The only reason I have not moved this yet is because there are still some people answering the original question.

We need to keep the "Cobras are fast", "Stangs are junk", etc. type comments out of this topic if you want it to stay in this forum. If the comments such as that continue, it becomes Lounge material and that's where it'll go

Thanks!



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