Amen Guys,
Joe has defanatly broken new ground for lt1s. Like i said Joe, You are my inspiration. If it wasnt for you i would of already sold the lt1 and bought my self an ls1.
On the side note i would like for people to know that i've had pleasure of dealing with joe. Even though he is a busy man and i know he dosent need the buisness , hes just out there to help us. He has given me a killer deal on the DFI and i do have his cam in the car. I cannot wait for this thing to get tuned, and get her rolling. So i can get out there and prove the ls1 guys that we arent dead just yet.
Joe i will defanatly keep in touch.
thanks for all the help
Andrey

 

whats his prices on cams?

 

So has this thing been on a dynojet yet since 2003? Either that or updated track times? Sorry if I missed them if they are posted but 13 pages will make your eyes hurt.

 

Wow, strange to see this one again. The only thing he has done is put 17" corvette wheels on it with nittos. He drives it everywhere and has had zero problems. I think he ran 11.72 at almost 121 with a 1.87 60 ft. I have begged him to launch a little higher that 2500 rpms, but I probably wouldn't either if I had a convert that damn clean. It is a real show car. He is the Zaino Man!

 

From his sig:

11.730 @ 119.95 (1.76) N/A M6 4.10 stock 10 bolt Best mph 120.49

 

 

Two things I don't like about dyno dynamics:
1) extremely light drums which do not load the engine
2) it's 100% subject of what you tell the program to do

Here's a video using the same type of dyno:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC7YWYc6SDE
WW FOR LANGUAGE (from their ignorant disbelief)

As you can see it's from a 3.8L supercharged V6 T-bird with some things done here and there, on the stock engine with a 70shot of nitrous. It's comedy because there is abolutely no load on the dyno and when the car makes a run it's as if it's a 1000rwhp car.
So they were all excited in thinking the car was going to be "deep into the 11's..." They went to the track. Lo and behold they ran a 12.38 @ 106mph.
It's been a few years, but I am still in disbelief this car made that number for reasons stated past and present. A 120mph trap speed for a claimed 3750lb car does not equate to 452rwhp. That trap speed is impressive for a vert no doubt. Just not 452rwhp impressive.

 

The guy with the 96 Impala that has been invited to the Pump Gas Drags the last two years, has many witnesses to mid 9s out of the car at 146mph and something like 4500lbs weight. Has a dyno chart that says 400rwhp and the dyno operator swore it was accurate. This is the other end of dyno inaccuracy, realistically the car makes well over twice that at the wheels, he tunes at the track.

He keeps finding weak links in the drivetrain and has never done better than a 1.5 short time, can't wait to see what it does when he stops breaking parts and gets it to hook.

I have charts somewhere from my old zz3 cammed setup(stock iron heads and shortblock) that look like over 400rwtq on 87 octane through full exhaust, again not accurate. I am not talking a spike either the spike was 509tw.

 

Is this thing still running on that Joe O cam?
I'm interested to see how it did over time.
Did you ever run it with DRs?

 

Yep. She's still running like the day I put it all together. Never fails to start, never thrown a code since it was tuned. I have about 10k miles on the setup.

I haven't raced it since 2004. I figure I have maxed out the 10 bolt performance. I did run the 11.7 on 315 Nitto DR's on 17x11's ZR1 wheels.

 

come race with us in a few weeks. After ford day we will probly run VMP the rest of the season

 

Didn't realize you still had a hard on for my car. When the car was

@ 260 whp it went 14.12 @ 100 on 245 gsc's
@ 292 whp it went 13.25 @ 104 on 275 Nitto DR's
@ 452 whp it went 11.73 @ 120 on 315 Nitto DR's

I always launched it the same. That's a pretty consistent gain in time vs HP.

And yeah according to you the dyno guys fudged the numbers just to turn around and buy one of Joe's cams for his vette.

 

VMP doesn't like me. No roll bar.

 

I agree. It is. I just don't agree with the rwhp/mph numbers. Never have and never will. You can chose to take it personally or we can just agree to disagree. Your call.
... and then?

 

And then what? I was pointing out the flawed logic of your suggestion they artificially inflated my dyno results and then they asked for Joes contact info to buy a cam. What would they possibly gain from that? Obviously that went right over your head the first time or maybe that seems logical to you.



By your logic and vast knowledge and experience at 3600 pounds,

the average 400 whp fbody will run 118-120 mph

the average 300 whp fbody will run 108-110 mph

the average 250 whp fbody will run 103-105 mph

hmmm bone stock LT1's dyno right around 250 rwhp and yet the average time I have noticed is low 14's at 98-100 mph.

Would you mind posting examples and documentation of these COUNTLESS 3600 pound stock LT1's that have trapped 103 - 105 mph?