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? on Record RWHP on a stock bottom LT1 N/A, Hows 452!

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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Yeah, but it isn't always that hot down there. Aren't the tracks open during the winter months?
ive been to the track on one of its coldest nites theyve actually had the track open here, and it was about 58-60

how much differences does 20* ambient temperature make?

i know it affects boosted cause a lot more.......those damn turbo guys love to run in the winter.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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When I say stickies, I'm referencing DR or DOTs. By regular/street radials, I'm talking about non-drag radial tires. Hehe, more people complain about too much traction over not enough where you're at? I can tell you that's not the case here Regardless, I just wanted to point out that trap speeds aren't "in the bag" at these power levels... I can see things like driver experience (especially if it's a 6 speed) and traction making a big difference in the traps.

Anyway, 452hp might be a bit optimistic for a h/c car (at least in 'dynojet hp'), but it's no reason to bag on the guy.

Originally posted by SS RRR
I'm not sure what you mean by "street radials" or what you mean by "stickies" or "regular radials". I am speaking of drag radials (Nittos BFG DR's) which even for a 450rwhp car can hook up as long as track prep is acceptible. There are a couple of tracks here that hook very well even for high hp cars running a drag radial generating 1.5 60' times. Around here there are many more complaints about people breaking driveline parts from launching than having traction problems.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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20 degrees can make alot of traction difference too but man can u feel the difference it makes in the motor!

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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Am I boasting? You're damn right I am. Not for me but for two other guys Joe Overton and Eric Bradby! They finally got this car to put down a good number, one that I didn't have before. I didn't port my own heads, I didn't come up with the cam to put in her, I didn't even tune it, Joe did. The only thing I did was bolt the parts to the car. I think that deserves some recognition for them even if you don't. If that doesn't sit well with you tough ****, go cry to Jason and Chris and see if you can get me banned from CZ28.com, whiner.

The title of my other thread which was meant for the more regionalized eastern side of the US was to rib at a couple of great guys that drive LS1's.........Harold and Larry. But you knew that from my posts over there.

Why are you quoting and copying little pieces from EFA, why not post the link to the thread? Let people read for themselves what they think. Here is the link,

http://www.fbodycentral.com/phpBB2/v...r=asc&start=60

For those that choose not to read that thread that's fine but I'll copy a post I put up YESTERDAY. Again it was posted for Joe and Eric.

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Mike, The primary purpose of this thread was to let people know what Joe and Eric put together and what the results were after tuning. Well that and to rib a couple of good ole LS1 drivers that can take a joke. I'd say some people noticed, now hopefully in the future the same hard work will find it's way into cars w/drivers (read A4's or Larry) that can show it's true potential. Lt1 and LS1 versions alike.

I'm proud to have been the test mule.

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I have a question though. If people can't run quicker and faster with the draglite and skinnies then why do I see so many people use them?

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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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SS RRR....i'm glad you've had such luck with Nittos but the experience around here is the opposite. Without heads and no blower I still couldn't hook up...and others in my town same thing also.

Joe
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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but it's no reason to bag on the guy.
If he hangs on my nuts much longer I'll have to stuff them in my socks.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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If he hangs on my nuts much longer I'll have to stuff them in my socks.
jealousy is an ugly thing. I guess he thinks he's the only one that knows anything about LT1s.

Gary is one of the nicest, most humble people that I have ever met. He posted this to thank the guys that helped him out. I think he deserves some credit too because he was taking a risk.

As far as the power ?s. I ran on the same day at the same track. I laid down 11.9s in incredible heat and humidity. I only ran 113.98 with a 1.69 60', which was pretty sorry due to track conditions. I had pulled the extra seats and was on welds with DRs and skinnies. HE STILL PULLED MORE MPH with FULL interior and babying out of the hole with a convert! If he could have left half as well as I was, HE WOULD HAVE KILLED ME! That was on stock tune, he picked up over 30hp and 30tq with the tune. He isn't out to beat anyone or be #1, he just wants to give thanks to his friends who helped him.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Quickshotkimber
jealousy is an ugly thing. I guess he thinks he's the only one that knows anything about LT1s.

Gary is one of the nicest, most humble people that I have ever met. He posted this to thank the guys that helped him out. I think he deserves some credit too because he was taking a risk.

As far as the power ?s. I ran on the same day at the same track. I laid down 11.9s in incredible heat and humidity. I only ran 113.98 with a 1.69 60', which was pretty sorry due to track conditions. I had pulled the extra seats and was on welds with DRs and skinnies. HE STILL PULLED MORE MPH with FULL interior and babying out of the hole with a convert! If he could have left half as well as I was, HE WOULD HAVE KILLED ME! That was on stock tune, he picked up over 30hp and 30tq with the tune. He isn't out to beat anyone or be #1, he just wants to give thanks to his friends who helped him.
Thanks James, couldn't have said it better myself.

As for the numbers, what can I say, I only posted the results.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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Wow....... didn't realize you would become bitter because of what I have posted.
All I'm saying is if the motor has that kind of power and torque then it should generate some impressive mph even on a drag radial on a 10-bolt.
I already stated I wish for the best and hope you have good results w/ that combo, but if you are going to boast about dyno numbers then by all means, please run at the track to back it up or not many will believe that dyno sheet to be true. If you take that personally then I suppose you have some issues.
Again... good luck.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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SS RRR....i'm glad you've had such luck with Nittos but the experience around here is the opposite. Without heads and no blower I still couldn't hook up...and others in my town same thing also.

Joe
Yeah that is about one of the best things around here is the fact that there is good race weather and some of the tracks have good conditions.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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its the middle of summer and track conditions are less then ideal anywhere in the northern hemisphere.

anyway great #'s again Gary and James, odes to the chef.


P.s have seen cars putting down way more then these guy's traping not much higher then your expectations for a 400 something RWHP car
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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Wow....... didn't realize you would become bitter because of what I have posted.
All I'm saying is if the motor has that kind of power and torque then it should generate some impressive mph even on a drag radial on a 10-bolt.
I already stated I wish for the best and hope you have good results w/ that combo, but if you are going to boast about dyno numbers then by all means, please run at the track to back it up or not many will believe that dyno sheet to be true. If you take that personally then I suppose you have some issues.
Again... good luck.
I don't have any issues but the direction you were headed with your posts could have mislead people to believe I was being an a** and I can for myself say I am far from that.

Aside from that I can see where you are coming from as far as dyno numbers vs track times. I will get back to a track when it's cooler and I'll even jump on the dynojet in the future so we can compare apples to apples. One thing you didn't specify to me but you did to someone else is that you ran your 12.0 at 115 (370 RWHP) at Cecil in 40 degree weather. That's a far cry from the weather in late June.

Yes you did say Good Luck twice now so I will say thank you like I should have the first time.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Yeah that is about one of the best things around here is the fact that there is good race weather and some of the tracks have good conditions.
Well Richmond dragway isn't one of them, I'm sure you have heard of it. I was busting them loose on slicks.

If 60' has nothing to do with mph, them why does a stall help so much with et AND MPH?
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by faded93bird
its the middle of summer and track conditions are less then ideal anywhere in the northern hemisphere.

anyway great #'s again Gary and James, odes to the chef.


P.s have seen cars putting down way more then these guy's traping not much higher then your expectations for a 400 something RWHP car

Thanks Eric, You remembr the james vs gary vid I sent you. That was his car after the AFRs and cc306. You should see that thing now! It is incredible. Those heads and intake are priceless with a one of a kind cam.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by SS RRR
I'm not sure what you mean by "street radials" or what you mean by "stickies" or "regular radials". I am speaking of drag radials (Nittos BFG DR's) which even for a 450rwhp car can hook up as long as track prep is acceptible. There are a couple of tracks here that hook very well even for high hp cars running a drag radial generating 1.5 60' times. Around here there are many more complaints about people breaking driveline parts from launching than having traction problems.
i have a maybe 320 hp car... with 3.42's ported heads, lt4 hotcam and a some sticky *** nitto's, i went to the track with gary and quickshot, an all i could do is spinn out the hole to a 13.2@107... so if gary's car was putting down let say 400hp... and i was having trouble gettin out the hole would it be possible for him to have the same problem too....

btw my car has heads,cam CAI, slp 1 3/4 heades, slp 2onL, and 1.5 STOCK ROCKERS...



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