LT1/LT4 Stroker Builder Who's the Best
I guess I'm missing why you feel he needs to be held accountable to you. Did you pay him for a product he failed to deliver? If not, why should he be held accountable to you for so much as the time of day? Much less a list of his best customers so you and your buddies could track them down and harrass them with this nonsense. Pissing off your best customers isn't a brilliant idea. I don't know why you think he owes you that.
I entered this thread of my own accord. I could have rolled my eyes and clicked on the next thread as I usually do when I see you guys ranting on Bret for no reason. Had I done that would the 355 in my car no longer exist? You would think so. And I'm the naive one?
P.S. "but don't hate...." Non-LT1 related question: Does anybody older than 16 actually speak like that?
I entered this thread of my own accord. I could have rolled my eyes and clicked on the next thread as I usually do when I see you guys ranting on Bret for no reason. Had I done that would the 355 in my car no longer exist? You would think so. And I'm the naive one?

P.S. "but don't hate...." Non-LT1 related question: Does anybody older than 16 actually speak like that?
Why you feel so compelled to defend this is beyond me - let the big boy answer his own questions. So far he's done a great job responding with images of Vagisil, don't you think?
BTW, if you want to read where BRE parrots a lot of his information from, check out this site (PM me if you want the link) Guys on this site actually build engines and race them in multiple levels of competition.
Last edited by SS MPSTR; Jan 24, 2007 at 12:54 PM.
I’ve been on this board for a while (and have done business with a lot of past & present LTx sponsors/vendors…Ai, BRE, Combination Motorsports, Thunder, LG, etc.) and can honestly say that Bret is a standup guy and really knows his ****. We should be thankful to have him on this board.
I'm relieved to hear that being a longtime member here makes you uniquely qualified to make the types of determinations you've made. Seriously though, being stand-up and knowing **** have nothing to do with the question that has been asked.
I'm thankful to have guys like Harold Brookshire on certain boards, and numerous other guys like Vizard contributing that have a substantial track record and 'credentials' outside of the e-world, desktop dyno and back issues of PHR. Without some substantiation, I wouldn't put BRE in the same category.
I don't think its deception....BTW I would never tell anyone who ground a custom cam for me.....I would keep the card in a safe.
Alot of people have good stuff...no need to bash on bret or anyone else tho...most of these guys are not running a class where they have to be within certain limits and living on the edge of those limits, most of them are street cars...I think he does a good job for those guys and I haven't seen a customer say they were unhappy.
The guy that wrote this post wanted to know who buiolds a good motor......so why are you so upset. I want to know why this stuff always turns up, these boards are suppose to help people
I know so many know it all type people that don't know anything...never won a title(there name or parts) but they don't last for long
I'm no expert of any sorts i'm basiclly a shade tree redneck so don't drag me into this....
Alot of people have good stuff...no need to bash on bret or anyone else tho...most of these guys are not running a class where they have to be within certain limits and living on the edge of those limits, most of them are street cars...I think he does a good job for those guys and I haven't seen a customer say they were unhappy.
The guy that wrote this post wanted to know who buiolds a good motor......so why are you so upset. I want to know why this stuff always turns up, these boards are suppose to help people
I know so many know it all type people that don't know anything...never won a title(there name or parts) but they don't last for long
I'm no expert of any sorts i'm basiclly a shade tree redneck so don't drag me into this....
Yeah, when people say the engine in my car doesn't exist simply because they don't like the guy who built it, I should agree. I guess they must be right.
I should forget all my real personal experience with the guy and jump on your ill-informed internet rumor spreading bandwagon.
What's "beyond me" is why a few people who happened to buy "Brand A" feel the need to chase around "Brand B" like a swarm of gnats making unfounded accusations based upon zero real information.
I've never said a single contrary word about Ai. Why on earth would I? So why on earth do you?
So we're back to my motor not existing again? Good catch! Now I know I'll need to walk to work tomorrow. Thanks!
The "legend" he was called a liar for here was he built a couple of motors and people bought them. Everything more than that was brought up by you and the other gnats.
You think he's the one who looks sad here? I know if I called somebody a liar simply because I didn't like him, with absolutely no basis in fact for doing so, and then saw pictures of what I said didn't exist.... I'd really feel like crap. I might even say sorry. I might shut my mouth for a while. You want to talk about accountability.....
I should forget all my real personal experience with the guy and jump on your ill-informed internet rumor spreading bandwagon.
What's "beyond me" is why a few people who happened to buy "Brand A" feel the need to chase around "Brand B" like a swarm of gnats making unfounded accusations based upon zero real information.
I've never said a single contrary word about Ai. Why on earth would I? So why on earth do you?
caught in deception?
the BRE legend
You think he's the one who looks sad here? I know if I called somebody a liar simply because I didn't like him, with absolutely no basis in fact for doing so, and then saw pictures of what I said didn't exist.... I'd really feel like crap. I might even say sorry. I might shut my mouth for a while. You want to talk about accountability.....
I'm a little baffled why you feel you need qualifications to question someone's expertise - you ask for referrals and samples of work before you let someone install ceramic tile in your kitchen, and I hope you would ask for some credentials and track record before letting someone operate on you or a loved one. I ask, because the BS flows easily on the internet and I encounter unqualified people in my profession daily.
with someone then I would absolutly want to know their qualifications. I would also not have any problem providing someone with my qualifications if someone was coming to me with an intrest in doing business with me.
Dave
FWIW, anyone who gives out customers names unless they consider it OK is a very bad move. Jon is one of my customers, he has no problem saying anything. I have other customers who have said it's ok to post their motor pics up, but don't want their name released. Hell there are street racers that would never talk to me again if I said anything about them to anyone. Besides, if you have happy customers you don't need to say what their stuff runs, most times they will do it for you.
Bret
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