which also means your insurance company aint payin fo jack sheet when you crash

and that holds true for every state i'm pretty sure...

 

I just found this on the NHTSA site,

1) What is a bumper?


A bumper is a shield made of steel, aluminum, rubber, or plastic that is mounted on the front and rear of a passenger car. When a low speed collision occurs, the bumper system absorbs the shock to prevent or reduce damage to the car. Some bumpers use energy absorbers or brackets and others are made with a foam cushioning material.


2) What is the purpose of bumpers?


The car bumper is designed to prevent or reduce physical damage to the front and rear ends of passenger motor vehicles in low-speed collisions. Automobile bumpers are not typically designed to be structural components that would significantly contribute to vehicle crashworthiness or occupant protection during front or rear collisions. It is not a safety feature intended to prevent or mitigate injury severity to occupants in the passenger cars. Bumpers are designed to protect the hood, trunk, grille, fuel, exhaust and cooling system as well as safety related equipment such as parking lights, headlamps and taillights in low speed collisions.


3) What are the Federal regulations for bumpers?


49 CFR Part 581, "The bumper standard," prescribes performance requirements for passenger cars in low-speed front and rear collisions. It applies to front and rear bumpers on passenger cars to prevent the damage to the car body and safety related equipment at barrier impact speeds of 2½ mph across the full width and 1½ mph on the corners.


This is equivalent to a 5 mph crash into a parked vehicle of the same weight. The standard requires protection in the region 16 to 20 inches above the road surface, and the manufacturer can provide the protection by any means it wants. For example, some vehicles do not have a solid bumper across the vehicle, but meet the standard by strategically placed bumper guards and corner guards

 

Hey Trey, my bumpers have been out for two years now. Doesnt bother me one bit. Have you ever looked at one? Not much to them. Yes they absorb energy....in a parking lot wreck. But thats about it. I took mine out to go faster, to get more weight transfer. And it works. Worked on LT1defuls car too. Would work on yours if you tried it. Maybe then your car might run as well as my low powered, bolt on car did.....

 

blubbadity blubbadity...look, I'm Jesus Christ the sugar high monkey! You've done nothing but CREATE and aruge yourself in a circle. First of all you said bumpers were steel, second the plastic weighs 5 pounds, thirdly you say you doubt they weigh 12 pounds...OBVIOUSLY you don't know what you are talking about. How's that for invalid?

45 pounds or 450 pounds I don't care. MY VALID TIMESLIP PROVEN points are more of an offering that your senseless replies trying to disprove me. I have timeslips at home...and video...and feel free to come look at my car any ol' time you want. I went from 8.7 to 8.3 with about 60-70 total pounds of weight loss...of course, my Father, may have helped push me down the track too.
So, what? I have to have a Free-eighty-Free stroker to buy a K member? Stock cars can't have tubular Ks? Never heard of that before. Best bang for my buck right now, YES. And I'd like to have a K member, is that against your rules? I can't spend the little money I have how I want? Hell, there's plenty of people around here putting cc306s on stock heads; pointless to me, but it's their car.

No, actually I don't. I don't have a lot of money to spend right now...but I seem to be doing pretty good. And, one of these ol' days when I do have some money, I'll really start modding my car with the I've-got-money-to-burn mentality. But, until then I can't. And my advice is to others out there like me. So...tell me...what IS your drift?
I've yet to see anyone besides you, Oh Great One, disagree with me. And what do I care...I KNOW I'm right. Looks like I"m making pretty good sense.

No...I'll give you that pleasure. I don't think I'm the only one that sees how you act every other thread. But, again, name calling and cut-downs seem to be the edge you take against me...that and your post count makes people think you have more knowledge than I. I care...really....I do. Anyone can scroll back thru here and see how I've maintained a cool calm attitude (except the one time I was flamed and responses to your dribble).
Ohh no, pick on someone from the safety of your home. Your avatar is the last thing that concerns me.
Really? Seemed like another "free post" to try and make me look bad. 20lbs might = 20 seconds on that online calculator you're using. But just like 10HP reacts differently in each car, 20lbs just might be the same way. You obviously don't know since you've never tested it out, so don't make generic claims based on forumlas that someone else has designed. When you do it yourself and prove me wrong, then I just make take what you have to say with any validity. At least I'm speaking from experience here.
Good job...I think I've tried to end this with a similar statement at least 5 times now.

 

Yea, I've asked several times what his few thousand dollar 383 ran, and he's consistently diverted the question by ridiculing me and trying to disprove my statements.

I like mine with 2 sugars, 2 creams.

 

I thought it was pretty damn funny myself.

 

I have not read this thread but really...if one wants to pick up some ET then each of us have our ways of doing it. some like to buy more parts and others like to take the weight out. WHO cares!?!? One has to decide what the goal is and then decide how to get there.
Bumper supports out of mine, if I am in a wreck, those little things are not going to do much good.
Do I agree with all measures of loosing weight, probably not but it is our cars, we can make them what we want.

IF, one does not believe all this, take your 383 motor car and run it. Then take the stuff out and trailer it (if you are scared) and run it. I bet there will be a decrease in ET and an increase in MPH with the same conditions. It is physics, simple stuff when you are einstine.....

 

I can't wait to get a tubular K member LT1derful! But not for the pleasure of better plug access My hooker LT make for some real good plug access. If you get the K-member befor I do you got to tell me how much weight it reduced you and what time improvements you see. I wont see the k-member untill next year. As you read befor ive taken a break from racing, but ill continue to SLOWLY build my car up.

 

I think all of you are smart a$$ess And that makes ya'll some funny SOB's IMO! I got to admit ya'll have said some pretty funny crap. I think that why I keep reading this thread

 

Yea, it'll be awhile before I get one too. Gonna wrap these wheels/tires and get me some 1.6RRs so I can freshen the valvetrain up. Then, I'll run it some...but I'm not buying anything for awhile. But...I've said that before...I just hope I can stick to it this time.

 

That was said with no intenshion of flames! I just think smarta$$es are funny.

 

When are you putting your rr's in? I have to do the same but I havn't found the time to do it or the help. Maybe we could get together over some beer and some help from peolpe that can make sure I don't squrew up and knock both of our cars out at the same time.

 

didnt read the whole thing but looks like a guy asked how to get .2 more out of his car to get in the 12's.. and LT1deful answeres and you trey bash his comments.. to me he is running in the 12's with much of nothing and everything he said i beleive you disbelieve and bash him about it yet it took you a pricy billet 383 to get about that fast

IMO i would take advise from someone who knows(LT1derful)... not someone who reads a magizine(treyZ28)

lol

 

I'm not sure man. I'll be picking up the wheels/tires here in a couple weeks. I'm trying to find used RRs...since I'm a cheapskate...but if not, I'll probably get Cromer to hook me up with the GMPP 1.6s. After that, sure thing. Not sure who's gonna help me out, I'm sure Russ will. Most of our friends have sweet garages!! I'm down with it, beer, cars, spring compressors...sounds like somone's loosin' an eye!!

 

LOL, yep but to make sure we don't loose any degree of saftey here lets wear elbow and knee pads, gloves, eye glasses, helmets and mouth guards. Im sure if trey was to help thats what he would want us to do We'll also hook our beer to an IV and have it slowly drip into our veins so we don't go over the safe limit of alcohol and be so drunk that we trip over the bumper support you removed and break our skull.