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Old May 23, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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LOL, yep but to make sure we don't loose any degree of saftey here lets wear elbow and knee pads, gloves, eye glasses, helmets and mouth guards. Im sure if trey was to help thats what he would want us to do We'll also hook our beer to and IV and have it slowly drip into our veins so we don't go over the safe limit of alcohol and be so drunk that we trip over the bumper support you removed and break our skull.

You forgot the "cup"! Very important.
Old May 23, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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I like the "wild side" quote in Einstein's sig....
Old May 23, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Taking things off the car to reduce weight is goign to help like lt1derful is saying. It may not help on the dyno, but its going to help on the track and accelration contests where it matters. There is a reason why i pull an instant 5 cars on my buddies cobra who dynoes 30-40 more hp then me... Its just up the individual rather to listen or not. Just becaus you dont want to make the sacrifice (trey) dosent make it not work.... Me personially would rather not remove my sway bar for example becaus i need all the handeling i can get, and im not goign to discredit someones elses adice on doing so.... Ive done my share of free mods to help out though, some of them didnt help on a dyno but when it came down to going fast, they help...
Old May 23, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by KamaroL98
Taking things off the car to reduce weight is goign to help like lt1derful is saying. It may not help on the dyno, but its going to help on the track and accelration contests where it matters. There is a reason why i pull an instant 5 cars on my buddies cobra who dynoes 30-40 more hp then me... Its just up the individual rather to listen or not. Just becaus you dont want to make the sacrifice (trey) dosent make it not work.... Me personially would rather not remove my sway bar for example becaus i need all the handeling i can get, and im not goign to discredit someones elses adice on doing so.... Ive done my share of free mods to help out though, some of them didnt help on a dyno but when it came down to going fast, they help...
This coming from a guy, if you are the one I'm thinking of, that has one of the meanest LS1s I've seen. It's amazing how well your car takes to spray!! HOLY SH*T!
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Well, I can't hate Trey TOO much...I just found out he's a Beer Pong player!! World's FUNNEST drinking game, HANDS DOWN!
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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wonderful-
a meeting of the minds this guy rounds up all his South Carolina friends and turns this into a lounge topic. (yes, notice how everyone is from SC?)

you make less and less sence every post. seriously- just read your own replies. And they wonder why we are camaro owners are stereotyped as rednecks-

My car will run a 20 min time or so. Cars without engines typically dont do too well


I dont think you guys get how ineffective weight reduction is in small quantities. There is no way in Hell- THATS RIGHT I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON IT- that taking off your 20 lb bumper supports will yeild ~.45 drop in the quart mile. Sorry. CAN NOT HAPPEN, you had other favorable factors on your side. I'm intrested to knw your MPH before and after removing bumper supports.
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
wonderful-
a meeting of the minds this guy rounds up all his South Carolina friends and turns this into a lounge topic. (yes, notice how everyone is from SC?)
Being wrong sucks don't it!?
THis guy disguises ridicule for knowledge and just can't accept the fact that he's wrong. Plain and simple. Ever wonder why guys from SC are running faster than others? Out of 11 cars and 50 states, there were 2 SC people at GMHTP bolt-on shootout and the winner was from SC too.

Originally posted by treyZ28

you make less and less sence every post. seriously- just read your own replies. And they wonder why we are camaro owners are stereotyped as rednecks-
Again, notice how he quickly jumps from a generic statement directly into ridicule. Redneck?! You think of that all by yourself? Or did you call up your other coffe-mate friends to get that out? SHOW ME where I don't make sense. Don't speak generically...SHOW ME!! I'm calling YOU out.
Originally posted by treyZ28

My car will run a 20 min time or so. Cars without engines typically dont do too well
From what I hear wasn't doing too well with one in it

Originally posted by treyZ28

I dont think you guys get how ineffective weight reduction is in small quantities. There is no way in Hell- THATS RIGHT I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON IT- that taking off your 20 lb bumper supports will yeild ~.45 drop in the quart mile. Sorry. CAN NOT HAPPEN, you had other favorable factors on your side. I'm intrested to knw your MPH before and after removing bumper supports.
Oh...you're calling me out?! Oh my! So...whatcha gonna do? You CANNOT prove me wrong, hell you don't even know what a bumper support looks like, let alone its affects outside of the car as relating to weight reduction. Can and DID happen. Sorry, you didn't get the memo? 1/8th mph before weight loss 81.9; after 84.5 (I think - 84.xx for sure). TAKE THE DAMN BUMPERS OFF YOUR CAR, trailer it out to the track and RUN IT. Don't sit here and tell me it's not valid and can't happen...PROVE ME WRONG!!! As it stands...you're the one that needs to save face around here...not me.
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by LT1derful
Well, I can't hate Trey TOO much...I just found out he's a Beer Pong player!! World's FUNNEST drinking game, HANDS DOWN!
please stop turning the tech sections into the lounge-

I dont care for you, your buddies who are blindly backing you or the "less than optimal" way you plan to mod your car.



just skimming througuh your "points"

obviously if you havn't hit anything- it doesn't matter it you have bumper suppports or not

45 pounds or 450 pounds I don't care. MY VALID TIMESLIP PROVEN points are more of an offering that your senseless replies trying to disprove me. I have timeslips at home...and video...and feel free to come look at my car any ol' time you want. I went from 8.7 to 8.3 with about 60-70 total pounds of weight loss
what do i say to something like this? a man who thinks hes lost 4 tenths (in the 8th none the less) due to 60lbs of weight reduction


YEAH! drop $500 on K members just to lose 50lbs- or about 0.5hp in the 1/4 mile. bang for the buck is soooooo there

so let me get this strait-

Let me restate your argument and I will unsubscribe to this thread. If this doesnt help you realize how terrible your points are- nothing will-

dropping 60lbs = .4 sec in the 1/8. And your car is proof of it.

removal of safety equipment to save weight is a good idea

you dont have money to burn so your going to et the best bang for your buck with tubular K member

cam without the heads is pointless (umm marcin is trapping 115mph with 306 and stock heads)

and michigan will kick the **** out of SC

I still dont know why you felt compelled to get all your firends in here to blindly back you up while making no sense what so ever. They can PM you and ask when your adding rockers.

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Old May 23, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
I dont think you guys get how ineffective weight reduction is in small quantities. There is no way in Hell- THATS RIGHT I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON IT- that taking off your 20 lb bumper supports will yeild ~.45 drop in the quart mile. Sorry. CAN NOT HAPPEN, you had other favorable factors on your side. I'm intrested to knw your MPH before and after removing bumper supports.
You really should figure out what you are wanting to do....
Weight reduction works, same car same track worse conditions, dropped from 8.3s to 7.8s in the 1/8th mile. This would include skinnies, rear seats, passenger seat, carpet padding, bumpers,etc.
Did Wonderful say he took out 1 bumper or the bumpers? both are about 50#s+ when weighed together.
Like I said before, take yours to the track, run it, remove the weight and let us know what you think then.
I have pulled weight out of mine and other than the rear seats being gone, can you tell?!?!?! I bet you cant.

TREY, do you race your car? I can not find any data in your sig or on your website about stats. I can only guess that the 383 is not performing as well as some of the less cubic inch motors for alot less cash....I know it hurts, (Greenbean) was running door to door with me and he just had bolt ons, i know how it feels but if you cant beat them, join 'em, take the weight out...

And the South Carolina boys have some fast cars, you guys need to come to some southern tracks and run, the conditions are usually sucky but still throw down...
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Shon Herron
You really should figure out what you are wanting to do....
Weight reduction works, same car same track worse conditions, dropped from 8.3s to 7.8s in the 1/8th mile. This would include skinnies, rear seats, passenger seat, carpet padding, bumpers,etc.
Did Wonderful say he took out 1 bumper or the bumpers? both are about 50#s+ when weighed together.
Like I said before, take yours to the track, run it, remove the weight and let us know what you think then.
I have pulled weight out of mine and other than the rear seats being gone, can you tell?!?!?! I bet you cant.

TREY, do you race your car? I can not find any data in your sig or on your website about stats. I can only guess that the 383 is not performing as well as some of the less cubic inch motors for alot less cash....I know it hurts, (Greenbean) was running door to door with me and he just had bolt ons, i know how it feels but if you cant beat them, join 'em, take the weight out...

And the South Carolina boys have some fast cars, you guys need to come to some southern tracks and run, the conditions are usually sucky but still throw down...
my car has never been run, get over it. Its not going to be run for a while due to companies sending me incorrect parts.
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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I guess no one read my post on the supports.
They are for 2.5mph impacts to keep cosmetic damage down to a minimum.
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
please stop turning the tech sections into the lounge-

I dont care for you, your buddies who are blindly backing you or the "less than optimal" way you plan to mod your car.
Oh...and I oh so care for you. I'll do as I please on this forum until someone with AUTHORITY tells me otherwise. You have no say so in what I can or cannot do.
Originally posted by treyZ28

just skimming througuh your "points"
Still waiting for one of yours!
Originally posted by treyZ28

what do i say to something like this? a man who thinks hes lost 4 tenths (in the 8th none the less) due to 60lbs of weight reduction
I wish my car was that fast? First thing that comes to mind. Again...masquerading insult for knowledge. When oh when are you going to say anything worth while?

Originally posted by treyZ28

YEAH! drop $500 on K members just to lose 50lbs- or about 0.5hp in the 1/4 mile. bang for the buck is soooooo there
MY MONEY I"LL DO AS I PLEASE!!!


Originally posted by treyZ28

Let me restate your argument and I will unsubscribe to this thread. If this doesnt help you realize how terrible your points are- nothing will-
Aruged yourself in a circle and finally realized it huh? Gonna run and hide now, maybe try and muscle someone else that's scared to speak back?
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dropping 60lbs = .4 sec in the 1/8. And your car is proof of it.
Yea...just like a CAI is gauranteed to give you 20HP GROW THE **** UP. It worked in my car...but then again, mine runs...might not help you push yours down the track.
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removal of safety equipment to save weight is a good idea
Sure, if you want to go fast at the track and aren't a snivling worry wart. Go for it. Or, build a free-80-free stroker...either way.
Originally posted by treyZ28

you dont have money to burn so your going to et the best bang for your buck with tubular K member
How MANY times do I have to say this. Look, and READ IT THIS TIME. I HAVE NOT, WILL NOT BE BUYING SOON, and HAVE NO IMMEdIATE plans to buy a tubular K member. But when I do...it will be with MY money, at MY descretion...and YOU'LL HAVE NO SAY IN IT. WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT!?!?!?!? I'm lost man...really...SHOW ME YOUR POINT!
Originally posted by treyZ28

cam without the heads is pointless (umm marcin is trapping 115mph with 306 and stock heads)
Good for him. Great mph...however, you over looked the first set of numbers in that timeslip...12.7. That's .2 better than me.
Originally posted by treyZ28

and michigan will kick the **** out of SC
How mature of you! Bring it on. If we run as well as we do in 90* weather 80=% humidity...I can't wait to see what some cold air does for us!!
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
I still dont know why you felt compelled to get all your firends in here to blindly back you up while making no sense what so ever. They can PM you and ask when your adding rockers.
Actually I didn't call on anyone to come defend me. I think your circular debate does justice to proving my point all by itself. But, when I DID point out your blantant ignorance...it just caught on
Don't feel left out. One of these days you will fit in. Now, Mr. Mogul wants his coffee...chop chop.
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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my car has never been run, get over it. Its not going to be run for a while due to companies sending me incorrect parts.
Good excuse. Your validity in this argument has just dwindled to what...ZERO?!
Old May 23, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Zepher
I guess no one read my post on the supports.
They are for 2.5mph impacts to keep cosmetic damage down to a minimum.
my car does not know what 2.5MPH is, much less 5...i will say that getting pushed from the front will not work with the front bumpers out...but that is fine with me.



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