Lutz on Chevy's Zeta: "Definately will not be a revival of Camaro...'
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When he stated the Firebird wasn't going to return everything was fine and dandy. "We have the GTO at least" people would say. Now we have a v8 rwd coupe of some sort and its not going to be a Camaro. I guess that isn't ok anymore? Anyway, it's not really up to us is it? It's like with movies and so many other mediums, if people didn't buy it in the first place they aren't going to make another. We all know the horrible sales, the fact that there were still brand new 2002 Camaros unsold in 2003. The nameplate, while having deep meaning, means nothing in terms of popularity of the car itself if it were built again.
The 4th Gen's unpopularity does not speak for all Camaros, there is much more to the car than the 4th Gen. The Camaro name is one of the most popular and recongnized names/brands of all time. (and it will always be that way) This is a proven and obvious fact. The Camaro has one of the highest enthusaist bases ever, (if not the highest when you consider everything) especially the previous Gens.
NV, read what RP says, I *think* he just might know what he's talking about on that subject.
As for B.L. not wanting to bring back names and make new ones, I wonder what he was thinking when he brought back the GTO?
This car is the reason for no Firebird and the GTO is not nearly as know as the Camaro is to the public. Figure it out.
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Originally posted by Red Planet
ohGodpleasestopyou'rekillingme...........
Go re-read that article again......there were no quotes.
I'm gonna have to write this on a ball bat and use it pretty soon...................
DON"T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.
CALM DOWN.
THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN TRANSPIRE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
GET CRACKIN' WITH MY HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THAT I POSTED HERE A WHILE BACK.......!!!!!!!
ohGodpleasestopyou'rekillingme...........
Go re-read that article again......there were no quotes.
I'm gonna have to write this on a ball bat and use it pretty soon...................
DON"T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.
CALM DOWN.
THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN TRANSPIRE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
GET CRACKIN' WITH MY HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THAT I POSTED HERE A WHILE BACK.......!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by dream '94 Z28
I think a few of us here have started ignoring these thype of people...
I think a few of us here have started ignoring these thype of people...
Until someone like RP, Guy, or Branden posts something like "The Camaro name isn't comeing back," I'm not going to be concerned... I have faith
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Originally posted by NikiVee
Oh I see... You don't know me or who I know now do you? So be careful who you diss.
Oh I see... You don't know me or who I know now do you? So be careful who you diss.
a hint..probably know more than you..unless your BobLutz himself...
if anything Red knows stuff way before he can even tell us about it..trust us..
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what bothers me....
...is that if there is a possibiltiy that this coupe COULD be named something else. A car really true to the camaro DNA should not be able to be called something else...i.e. chevelle or monte. A new name perhaps but if it is close enough in design to pass as a more conventional mainstream coupe...then the camaro name will be a name in name only.
(yoda voice)
1st gen cues on a GTO does not a camaro make.
...is that if there is a possibiltiy that this coupe COULD be named something else. A car really true to the camaro DNA should not be able to be called something else...i.e. chevelle or monte. A new name perhaps but if it is close enough in design to pass as a more conventional mainstream coupe...then the camaro name will be a name in name only.
(yoda voice)
1st gen cues on a GTO does not a camaro make.
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Originally posted by Caps94ZODG
are you sure about that..do you know the people on this thread??
a hint..probably know more than you..unless your BobLutz himself...
if anything Red knows stuff way before he can even tell us about it..trust us..
are you sure about that..do you know the people on this thread??
a hint..probably know more than you..unless your BobLutz himself...
if anything Red knows stuff way before he can even tell us about it..trust us..
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well then tell your source that if the name is not Camaro then it WILL be a sales FLOP just as hard as it did when there was no advertising for it and it still sold pretty well.
look at what happened when they renamed the Lumina 4 door the Impala..get what I am saying...
just tell us why you are so sure that Camaro cannot come back??
cus I can tell you if the consumer wants a Camaro then it should be names Camaro, not something that looks like a Camaro but is not.
rmember the Ford Mustang FWD version..the Probe??? see what I am saying..ever see the almost finished product of the Mustang Probe? and it got another name...
look at what happened when they renamed the Lumina 4 door the Impala..get what I am saying...
just tell us why you are so sure that Camaro cannot come back??
cus I can tell you if the consumer wants a Camaro then it should be names Camaro, not something that looks like a Camaro but is not.
rmember the Ford Mustang FWD version..the Probe??? see what I am saying..ever see the almost finished product of the Mustang Probe? and it got another name...
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Originally posted by Caps94ZODG
retty welllook at what happened when they renamed the Lumina 4 door the Impala..get what I am saying...
retty welllook at what happened when they renamed the Lumina 4 door the Impala..get what I am saying...
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Originally posted by NikiVee
Oh I see... You don't know me or who I know now do you? So be careful who you diss.
Oh I see... You don't know me or who I know now do you? So be careful who you diss.
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Originally posted by DaxsZ28
I thought the Impala was a great selling car?? No, it's not an Impala that us enthusiasts care much for it, but it sells, and that's what counts.
I thought the Impala was a great selling car?? No, it's not an Impala that us enthusiasts care much for it, but it sells, and that's what counts.
Not that its a bad thing...
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Originally posted by DaxsZ28
I thought the Impala was a great selling car?? No, it's not an Impala that us enthusiasts care much for it, but it sells, and that's what counts.
I thought the Impala was a great selling car?? No, it's not an Impala that us enthusiasts care much for it, but it sells, and that's what counts.
Like I've said before, Camaro is in the top 3 recognized and favorite nameplates. I HIGHLY doubt GM would ditch this name. Until RP literally comes out and says so, I truly believe Camaro will be on this coupe. IZ28 made a good point, if fresh names are so important, why is the name GTO on Pontiac's new coupe and not their new direction, a name like G10? Dont believe everything you read and believe only half of what you see......good quote to live by.