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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Angry Lutz on Chevy's Zeta: "Definately will not be a revival of Camaro...'

That's from page 38 of this month's Car and Driver.

Can we just gag him or something?
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Re: Lutz on Chevy's Zeta: "Definately will not be a revival of Camaro...'

Originally posted by WERM
That's from page 38 of this month's Car and Driver.

Can we just gag him or something?
I appreciate "guts", but Bob really does need to stuff it.

There are 100,000 cars out there for ya Bob, if you've got big enough nards to go after them.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I think ol' Billy Bob is trying to pull a fast one, quite frankly...

What context was this comment made in? It would say a lot to me if he used the word "Camaro" without any mention of it by the interviewer, for instance....

There is also the possibility of an "All Corvettes Are Red"-type scenario here. C5 was full steam ahead in development without GM top brass even knowing it, as the Chevy division did some *ahem* "creative accounting" to supply funding to the project. Perhaps this is why RP kept telling us to read ACAR.

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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This is something Bob Lutz has said before and many times. I have no reason to doubt it. I'm sure Bob is on top of everything at GM, don't kid yourselves that he's not. Do not expect the Camaro to come back. Do except a Hi performance sedan from Chevy.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by NikiVee
This is something Bob Lutz has said before and many times. I have no reason to doubt it. I'm sure Bob is on top of everything at GM, don't kid yourselves that he's not. Do not expect the Camaro to come back. Do except a Hi performance sedan from Chevy.
You are just wrong on the Camaro. There IS a car... too much info from too many places.

BUT, it does get at least annoying the way Mr. Lutz approaches talking about it... he should simply say "no comment", IMO...
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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This is something Bob Lutz has said before and many times. I have no reason to doubt it. I'm sure Bob is on top of everything at GM, don't kid yourselves that he's not. Do not expect the Camaro to come back. Do except a Hi performance sedan from Chevy.
There is a high performance coupe Chevrolet is due to get in 2008, so don't be so quick to ditch the baby with the bathwater.



I should be getting some word on this soon, but I suspect that Mr. Lutz can be counted as one of the people eager to change the name of the Camaro just as every other car done on his watch is sporting all new names.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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I should be getting some word on this soon, but I suspect that Mr. Lutz can be counted as one of the people eager to change the name of the Camaro just as every other car done on his watch is sporting all new names.
He kind of has a history of this when you look at his time at Chrysler, really... lots of new nameplates on his watch.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Fine coupe then. The fact of the matter is that no CAMARO is coming back as a CAMARO.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Fine coupe then. The fact of the matter is that no CAMARO is coming back as a CAMARO.
No... that is not a fact. While it is a possibility, and it is your opinion, it is not a fact.
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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exactly..thats why RP needs some motivation for the nmae camaro to come back!
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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ohGodpleasestopyou'rekillingme...........

Go re-read that article again......there were no quotes.

I'm gonna have to write this on a ball bat and use it pretty soon...................

DON"T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.

CALM DOWN.

THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN TRANSPIRE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

GET CRACKIN' WITH MY HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THAT I POSTED HERE A WHILE BACK.......!!!!!!!
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Sounds like a lot on denial of some peoples parts. Hey, don't worry guys Chevy will get a HIPERF CAR!!!! Just not named Camaro.

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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When he stated the Firebird wasn't going to return everything was fine and dandy. "We have the GTO at least" people would say. Now we have a v8 rwd coupe of some sort and its not going to be a Camaro. I guess that isn't ok anymore? Anyway, it's not really up to us is it? It's like with movies and so many other mediums, if people didn't buy it in the first place they aren't going to make another. We all know the horrible sales, the fact that there were still brand new 2002 Camaros unsold in 2003. The nameplate, while having deep meaning, means nothing in terms of popularity of the car itself if it were built again.
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When he stated the Firebird wasn't going to return everything was fine and dandy. "We have the GTO at least" people would say. Now we have a v8 rwd coupe of some sort and its not going to be a Camaro. I guess that isn't ok anymore? Anyway, it's not really up to us is it? It's like with movies and so many other mediums, if people didn't buy it in the first place they aren't going to make another. We all know the horrible sales, the fact that there were still brand new 2002 Camaros unsold in 2003. The nameplate, while having deep meaning, means nothing in terms of popularity of the car itself if it were built again.
Actually, if I remember correctly, Camaro is the 2nd most well known name at GM, and in the top 5 of all US cars, so despite whatever may be going on behind the curtains, I'm sure GM is aware of this.

I disagree with your assesment of the Camaro name. There's plenty posted here as to why Camaro sales took a dive towards the end (due to no small part to a stale design... at least Firebird had multiple front ends over the life of the 4th gen). Pontiac isn't likely to bring Firebird back because they are moving upscale, they have the Solstice, and the market isn't big enough for both Camaro & Firebird.

We'll know soon enough.
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ohGodpleasestopyou'rekillingme...........

Go re-read that article again......there were no quotes.

I'm gonna have to write this on a ball bat and use it pretty soon...................

DON"T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.

CALM DOWN.

THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN TRANSPIRE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

GET CRACKIN' WITH MY HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THAT I POSTED HERE A WHILE BACK.......!!!!!!!
I dont really think anyone is really going to listen right now Scott. But those of us that know you & listen to what you said a while back. "Sit down shut up & hold on the ride is coming."



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