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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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i have not seen that anywhere....but 306 is not gonna do a damn thing to help the camaro match up against the 13.1 1/4, 5.1 0-60 2011 v6 stang.
13.1?? Might want to check those stats again!
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by falchulk
13.1?? Might want to check those stats again!
correction....13.7!
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by foxbat
i have not seen that anywhere....but 306 is not gonna do a damn thing to help the camaro match up against the 13.7 1/4, 5.1 0-60 2011 v6 stang.
I think GM needs to match the EPA mpg rating more than the hp. I am sure they can do both though.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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i dunno...i'm very curious to see how gm wrangles this horse with a 200-300 pound disadvantage. from inception i've always felt the gen 5 camaro was far too large...it should never have been any bigger than a 2003 mustang. now they're looking towards alpha in 2015 for weight savings when they had the chance 4 years ago to start this thing out smaller and lighter. most important thing, though, is they must do something to keep the much-ballyhooed sales advantage they've been enjoying over the mustang in the past 12 months.
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:21 AM
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For those interested, the new Mustang V8 will soon arrive on our shores... albeit with a huffer.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576FD00140C27

Cannot wait to drive it!
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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For those interested, the new Mustang V8 will soon arrive on our shores... albeit with a huffer.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576FD00140C27

Cannot wait to drive it!
I read a story about that.

They said the base motor was going to make 422 hp and 405 tq. If that motor is blown either it has to be a good bit different than the american mustang 5.0 or they are only running 1 psi of boost.

But I see the article you linked rates power differently. So the one that I read quoting hp numbers could be wrong.
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sax1031
I read a story about that.

They said the base motor was going to make 422 hp and 405 tq. If that motor is blown either it has to be a good bit different than the american mustang 5.0 or they are only running 1 psi of boost.

But I see the article you linked rates power differently. So the one that I read quoting hp numbers could be wrong.
422 is the correct conversion from 315kw. It looks to me as though they're going for more power lower in the rev range rather than more peak power. It could also be that they don't want a higher rating for political reasons....
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sax1031
I read a story about that.

They said the base motor was going to make 422 hp and 405 tq. If that motor is blown either it has to be a good bit different than the american mustang 5.0 or they are only running 1 psi of boost.

But I see the article you linked rates power differently. So the one that I read quoting hp numbers could be wrong.
I'm betting it would put out more power than that. Ford are very conservative in the way they quote outputs down here. The 310kW F6 puts out more like 340kW. They are quicker than the HSV LS3s by around 3 mph terminal speed down the quarter but the F6 isn't as quick around an open circuit.
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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One interesting comment from a Mustang guy, the 5.0 trap speed might be low with 3.73s. He's saying 111 mph is at redline (6800) and the rev limiter might be pulling timing. If true, maybe 3.55s are faster gears on a stock car?

Interesting I read this over on a stang site. Could be the 3.73 actually holding this thing back?
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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3.73 gears, 27.5" tire, 1.33 tranny gear (4th) calculates to 113 mph @ 6850 rpm. Given that this is only 250-300 rpm above peak HP, then 3.73s should NOT be artificially lowering the MPH.

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that sounds like a good idea. You think it might be a good to forgo the 3.73's and go straight to the 4.10's or 4.56's with a revver like that like the cobra guys do? i wonder if the magazine guys just let it redline at the end of the quarter or if they shifted. Im guessing since theyre not really pros they didnt consider it and shifted......but then again it would probably be bouncing off the rev limiter right at the end and not sure if it would help much.
4.10s or 4.56s would mandate the use of 5th gear (1:1) in the 1/4 mile. That might be ok, but it depends on whether or not the MT82 transmission can be aggressively shifted into 5th gear (such as is possible on the 2/3 shift).

From a drag racing perspective, I want to be hitting the rev limiter just before the traps.
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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3.73 gears, 27.5" tire, 1.33 tranny gear (4th) calculates to 113 mph @ 6850 rpm. Given that this is only 250-300 rpm above peak HP, then 3.73s should NOT be artificially lowering the MPH.

4.10s or 4.56s would mandate the use of 5th gear (1:1) in the 1/4 mile. That might be ok, but it depends on whether or not the MT82 transmission can be aggressively shifted into 5th gear (such as is possible on the 2/3 shift).

From a drag racing perspective, I want to be hitting the rev limiter just before the traps.
but the mustang has 255-40-19 which is 27" which would put it at 111tops. I think it WOULD be better with the 3.55 or a slightly taller tire so that they can just leave it in gear and finish the quarter in 4th OR go with a much shorter gear like 4.10 or 4.56 and make 5th more usable in the quarter. Although that might make 1st gear almost unusable, or possibly too many shifts, or 5th gear might not be able to be aggressively shifted like you said. Im curious as to how all that will play out.
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Interesting I read this over on a stang site. Could be the 3.73 actually holding this thing back?
that is a definate possibility. I think leaving the 3.73's and bumping up the redline would definately be an option. Id still consider that "stock" when those numbers come out as well since all thats changed is the shift point.
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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If they shifted into 5th, then I could see it hurting the MPH. Otherwise, unless they are actually hitting the rev limiter, I just don't see it.

Could be wrong though.
Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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I didn't want to open up a new thread as it's conjecture at this point... so I thought I might add the rumor to this thread regarding GM's 2011 LS3 power upgrade.

The HSV LS3 is rumored to get some LS7 performance parts (i.e.cam etc...) to tide the engine over until the GenV powerplant arrives.

Here.
Old Apr 16, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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I didn't want to open up a new thread as it's conjecture at this point... so I thought I might add the rumor to this thread regarding GM's 2011 LS3 power upgrade.

The HSV LS3 is rumored to get some LS7 performance parts (i.e.cam etc...) to tide the engine over until the GenV powerplant arrives.

Here.
thats crazy! but im sure theyd debut it first in the corvette though. I think we should look at the corvette to see whats going on with their engines



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