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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
well, back to the subject at hand. Im sure the engineers designed the chassis to perform greatly or at least adequately given the restraint of the tiny (and thus more affordable and probably quieter) 255 width tires. but i strongly believe that the car will perform even better in every aspect (hence, even quicker times) with wider tires.
Wouldn't the wider tires hurt fuel economy? And since Ford is now actively promoting its fuel economy numbers on the Mustang I would wager that the 255s may have been a trade off for those numbers.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Wouldn't the wider tires hurt fuel economy? And since Ford is now actively promoting its fuel economy numbers on the Mustang I would wager that the 255s may have been a trade off for those numbers.
perhaps so. That means the new mustang puts up these valiant numbers despite riding on gas saving econo tires
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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ok i did the whole calculator thing. 75mph should net the SS close to 6300rpm and 80mph is closer to 6700rpm. so yes there is a shift there. If they wanted to go strictly 0-80 it would probably be quicker to just leave it in 2nd and go to 6700rpm. but nobody really drives like that.

So did they oopsie the shift on that one? Pulling a 4/10ths lead between 70-80mph during only 1.2 seconds of elapsed time is a lot. Other than the start, the rest of the time they are within a tenth or two of each other. It also seems the Camaro is pulling both before and after the 70-80mph zone. Weird.

30-40 Camaro is faster by 2/10th
40-50 Mustang is faster by 2/10th
50-60 Even
60-70 Camaro is faster by 1/10th
70-80 Mustang is faster by 4/10ths (2 to 3 shift?)
80-90 Camaro is faster by 1/10th
90-100 even

100 to 110.8 for the Camaro 2.4 seconds
100 to 111.3 for the Mustang 2.5 seconds
Mustang has a higher .5mph trap

What mph zone does the 1 to 2 shift on the Camaro occur at?
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LeadSled1
So did they oopsie the shift on that one? Pulling a 4/10ths lead between 70-80mph during only 1.2 seconds of elapsed time is a lot. Other than the start, the rest of the time they are within a tenth or two of each other. It also seems the Camaro is pulling both before and after the 70-80mph zone. Weird.

30-40 Camaro is faster by 2/10th
40-50 Mustang is faster by 2/10th
50-60 Even
60-70 Camaro is faster by 1/10th
70-80 Mustang is faster by 4/10ths (2 to 3 shift?)
80-90 Camaro is faster by 1/10th
90-100 even

100 to 110.8 for the Camaro 2.4 seconds
100 to 111.3 for the Mustang 2.5 seconds
Mustang has a higher .5mph trap

What mph zone does the 1 to 2 shift on the Camaro occur at?
at what rpm does the LS3 supposed to be shifted at??
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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if the mustang shift point is 6800rpm, then here are the MPH's of the shifts

1-2 = 40mph
2-3 = 60mph
3-4 = 86mph
4-5 = 111mph
5-6 = 146mph
6 = 225mph LOL
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Maurisso....if english is your second language, then I salute you. It is my first (and only), and I have a hard enough time with it!

LS3 should be shifted very close to redline in order to maximize power in each gear. That means 6500-6600 rpm. It *may* need to come down a bit on the 3rd to 4th, as they are more closely spaced. I've never done that math.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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The Mustang should be shifted at the absolute highest rpm that the stock rev limiter will let it run to - which is either 6850 or 7000 rpm, depending upon where you read it.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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if the Camaro shift point is 6500rpm, then here are the MPH's of the shifts

1-2 = 53mph
2-3 = 78mph
3-4 = 112mph
4-5 = 161mph
5-6 = 191mph
6 = 282mph
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
The Mustang should be shifted at the absolute highest rpm that the stock rev limiter will let it run to - which is either 6850 or 7000 rpm, depending upon where you read it.
thanks for the compliment. I agree that the Mustang should be shifted probably higher than 6800 (probably closer to 7000rpm) which is what i computed for but i did that because i thought i had read that the stock rev limiter is 6850rpm. was i mistaken?
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Ford lists the "redline" as 7000 rpm on their spec sheet, but I have also read 6850 as the fuel shutoff point, hence my uncertainty as to what it actually is.

If I were to get one, one of the early mods would no doubt be a tune. In that tune, I'd absolutely bump the limiter up to ~7500 rpm, as I'd want to shift in the 7300-7400 range, given the 6600 rpm HP peak.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Ford lists the "redline" as 7000 rpm on their spec sheet, but I have also read 6850 as the fuel shutoff point, hence my uncertainty as to what it actually is.

If I were to get one, one of the early mods would no doubt be a tune. In that tune, I'd absolutely bump the limiter up to ~7500 rpm, as I'd want to shift in the 7300-7400 range, given the 6600 rpm HP peak.
that sounds like a good idea. You think it might be a good to forgo the 3.73's and go straight to the 4.10's or 4.56's with a revver like that like the cobra guys do? i wonder if the magazine guys just let it redline at the end of the quarter or if they shifted. Im guessing since theyre not really pros they didnt consider it and shifted......but then again it would probably be bouncing off the rev limiter right at the end and not sure if it would help much.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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a hint at what may be coming for 2011 V6....http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...g-ar86876.html
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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a hint at what may be coming for 2011 V6....http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...g-ar86876.html
I thought they already said they were going to raise the hp rating to 306 for 2011?
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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I thought they already said they were going to raise the hp rating to 306 for 2011?
i have not seen that anywhere....but 306 is not gonna do a damn thing to help the camaro match up against the 13.7 1/4, 5.1 0-60 2011 v6 stang.

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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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i have not seen that anywhere....but 306 is not gonna do a damn thing to help the camaro match up against the 13.1 1/4, 5.1 0-60 2011 v6 stang.
13.1? It gets faster and faster.



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