The problem with polls on websites like these is everyone says they're going to do 'x' but when it comes down to it, many don't.

I can tell you that there are a LOT of people here and elsewhere who are holding the idea that an LS3-powered Camaro will come in under $30,000. There are also those who say they will buy new in these polls, then they will see the sticker, decide it's too much and wait to buy used (no matter what the sticker actually turns out to be).

People are still in the 5th Gen honeymoon phase. Oh sure, everyone plans on buying one now, but when the car is at the dealership and it's time to .... or get off the crapper, what's going to happen? I'm not sure.

This is why I find it ironic that everyone is so concerned about cost as opposed to weight, yet most say they would spend over $30,000 for their next Camaro anyway. Which poll am I to believe?

 

My point was eloquently explained by Wilson........

 

Well, I personally think that many here don't give a crap about weight. Most here are not going to race the car, or at least not more than an occasional
dragstrip night. As far as fuel mileage and weight, obviously a correlation,
but the MPG numbers that will come in will be at or better than what many
of us drive now. So then it comes down to can I afford this car. If it goes
above 30K then I think the answer is no for many here. As far as myself goes,
I will most definitely be buying one if the car is what I think it is going to be.
You can take that to the bank.

 

And on a similar note, I was impressed when Lutz asserted that a true focus group is what someone will put in their driveway, rather than what they think would be nice to have.

Cutting a check always separates the pretenders from the players.

 

Whoa. A whole lot of assumption there my friend.


And that there is undeniably the bottom line.

 

well.. Here a 31k g8 is costing around 45k, so not many people are buying it...

I expected a Camaro to be a tad behind in interior quality than this car and thus saving a few dollars. Other than bluetooth I don't need many things on the car interior wise. If I were to buy one I would choose the cheapest v8, but also because it would be the lightest.

Given that the car will be too heavy I will wait it off and get either a CTS-V or a z06 vette (both used).

 

How aboutreviving this topic?

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=588709

 

G8 sales seem to be slipping in general.

 

I agree with that.

Yeah thats true too. Exotic materials droping the weight just a little would be pointless. I was trying to get at what your idea of ideal would be out of my own curiousity. That is theoretically doable. I think Scott had mentioned something to the effect "We could make it light like a vette but it would be at vette prices."

So I imagine being the vette is light as possible and being that the Camaro being bigger would be slightly heavier and maybe more expensive with more material.

But a 2008 1LT comes in at $46,950 Supposing that were possible on a Camaro and could be done at the same weight. Would that be ok in theory?

Im at the point where Im considering a 1 year old SS realistically. I might snap on impulse and go new but I d love to have a new one, but Im not sure its economically feesible or responsible for me as I dont own a house yet. I have been noticing, especially lately, that some of people here make alot more than I do.

 

That is pretty disappointing too. The 2009 Mustang GT has a base price of under $27k. The 2010 GT will likely still be under $28k. Camaro needs to be CLOSE to that, IMHO.

Hopefully, it will be.
Bob

 

I have no certain knowledge, but my guess would be that a V8 Camaro will start under $30K. Maybe even quite abit under.

 

Like has been posted the V-8 Camaro must start at or under 30k The Challenger offers IRS and some very nice options for 30K. Yes it is heavy but a very nice looking car.

For me GM needs to get the cost in line with both Mustang and Challenger, it cant cost more. If it does cost more I feel people will just stick with the Mustang or give the Dodge a chance.

Weight is a big concern as well, the new Camaro is not at sleek as the 4th Gen. car and will struggle to get the same MPG numbers as the previous generation did. To me not meeting or exceeding the previous cars MPG numbers is a failure on GM's part and it sounds like the deck is stacked against it.

 

The camaro is just as heavy as the challenger...

 

I hope you are wrong, but to post like that you must be in the know. Of course you are also saying that the Camaro is more heavy than a 4 door G8 with your statment.

A 4200lb V-8 Camaro has no place in this market. If you are correct and Camaro is that heavy, then the Challenger is twice the car. It can fit a family of 5 and has a HUGE trunk that will fit coolers and full size baby strollers if needed. If Camaro is more Mustang size with Challenger weight that is a shame.

 

True, but it is kind of hard to know how the G8 would have sold without our economy being borderline recession. The G8 was available only after oil prices went from 2.50 to 4.00 and after the US economy went to the toilet. That impacts a lot more types of vehicle sales than just the G8. e.g. Toyota slashing their projected unit sales this year.

In addition, don't all highly anticipated, newly released, vehicles sell well out of the gate, but then recede down to an average selling rate.