View Poll Results: What will the official curb weight be for a base V8 5th gen?
3499 lbs or less
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3500-3549
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So, Charlie...
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Nice.:goes to read the edmunds and MT articles to see if they list the options:
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Charlie is very vocal about weight, and he never gives a number. He's obviously not going to stop being vocal about weight, and it's hard to discuss it without getting at least a bit more specific than "it's going to be heavy." So I wanted him to get specific.
Yes, I could have given it a different subject, but wanting someone to get specific is hardly malicious.
Yes, I could have given it a different subject, but wanting someone to get specific is hardly malicious.
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
You'd encounter little resistance that way, since that's how many of us feel (except for the deposit part).
The general impression I get is that people in the 5th gen forum don't want people to be critical of things we're not sure about. To pick one recent example, there's a big difference between saying, "The 5th gen is hideous from the back," and "The angle of that photo isn't very flattering to the rear of the car. I hope it looks better in person." Don't jump to conclusions, and before you form your final opinion. I don't think that's unreasonable at all.
The general impression I get is that people in the 5th gen forum don't want people to be critical of things we're not sure about. To pick one recent example, there's a big difference between saying, "The 5th gen is hideous from the back," and "The angle of that photo isn't very flattering to the rear of the car. I hope it looks better in person." Don't jump to conclusions, and before you form your final opinion. I don't think that's unreasonable at all.
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At this time I'd like to stop arguing about my intent. I've said my piece; think what you want. As Jason said, it's getting ugly in here. I'd like to go back to discussing weight.
Jason, if you're still here... as a token of my good intent, would you mind editing the name of the thread to "So, how much do you think the 5th gen will weigh?"
Jason, if you're still here... as a token of my good intent, would you mind editing the name of the thread to "So, how much do you think the 5th gen will weigh?"
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As far as I can tell, Pontiac.com doesn't yet let you build and price a G8. I'm on a crippled version of the internet here at work (WebSense
), so maybe somebody else would have more luck.I suspect that their G8 had a "premium package" that included leather and a handful of other things, and nothing more. If we can confirm that, it'll be interesting to see that such a package adds ~100 pounds to the car!
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These are the kinds of statements I find troubling. One, you have no basis for knowing the 'weight goal', unless you are part of the Camaro design team. Two, statements like this are antagonistic by nature and reflective of disdain for the car. I believe a fan should wait until they know all the facts (dimensions, power/tq, price, performance) before trying to make a sweeping judgment.
That I do know. For a number of reasons, I wouldn't want to state what the weight goal is/was. If that pisses people off, oh well. The "weight goal" BTW, was something I was satisfied with and hoping would become reality. More than one person warned me early on that the weight goal would be exceeded - maybe by alot.
Regardless - from the most optimistic to the most pessimistic numbers - they have all gone up.
Anyway, the car is what it is. I'm just hoping I'll like what I see when it's released.
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He's messin' with you, JR. I appreciate anyone who tries to fight for truth and justice online, but you can't win this one. I have yet to see a message board on any topic that didn't have a resident pessimist who somehow miraculously knows a lot but can't share. Sadly, this medium opens the door to such things.
On topic, I voted based on nothing more than a guess. Check it. It's ridiculous, but evidently just as valid as anyone else.
On topic, I voted based on nothing more than a guess. Check it. It's ridiculous, but evidently just as valid as anyone else.
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That I do know. For a number of reasons, I wouldn't want to state what the weight goal is/was. If that pisses people off, oh well. The "weight goal" BTW, was something I was satisfied with and hoping would become reality. More than one person warned me early on that the weight goal would be exceeded - maybe by alot.
Regardless - from the most optimistic to the most pessimistic numbers - they have all gone up.
Anyway, the car is what it is. I'm just hoping I'll like what I see when it's released.
Regardless - from the most optimistic to the most pessimistic numbers - they have all gone up.
Anyway, the car is what it is. I'm just hoping I'll like what I see when it's released.
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Okay, I think this is done now that we landed on the same page. I had to edit out some pretty useless remarks at the end here anyway that didn't make things any better.
If anyone wants to start a new poll without the friction, feel free.
We'll all find out what the weight is soon enough, anyway. Let's all put our party hats back on.
If anyone wants to start a new poll without the friction, feel free.
We'll all find out what the weight is soon enough, anyway. Let's all put our party hats back on.
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