How about some options? No "tops" (Targa, T, Moonroof, 'vert). I will give it credit about the AWD system though...

If it was priced in the mid 50's...IMO, it would be the best bang for the buck.

 

I agree...what do you want? Motortrend's February 2008 issue quotes the base GT-R coming in at $69,850. In their December 2007 issure they quote Kazutoshi Mizuno, who is the GT-R chief product specialist and chief engineer, saying "...based on it's performance, our GR-R should cost over $400,000." Take what you will from that. $400,000 may be steep, but I'd venture to guess that this GT-R is worth a LOT more than what it's MSRP is. Personally, I think the same thing goes for the new Corvette ZR1...even the Z06! Besides...asking for things like different roof options on the GT-R is kind of out there. The GT-R was designed as a track car/exotic...not something that you putz around in just to be seen. Plus, some of those options seriously take away from structural rigidity and add weight...Just a few things to think about when considering the performance of a supercar

 

Here's a video I shot this past weekend of the Production Challenger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyIaK8aTYMU

 

GM s*hit on the concept Camaro and screwed up the production model. I like the Challenger better.

 

Then you'll know which one you want to buy! There's nothing that says we all have to like the same thing, you like the Challenger, I like the Camaro, we both have that choice (among others).
Clyde

 

The only thing GM screwed up on was being 2 years late....the camaro still looks better than the charger....but of course we all have our opinion. I'd put more faith in the GM drivetrain though. When everybody starts putting blowers on the SRT8 engines they will find out the $$$$ way that they do not have forged crankshafts and are missing a few other high perfomance goodies too that are related to longevity (like the beautiful but expensive connecting rods the Z06 vette has).

 

A 3800+ lb track car? The new GT-R is exactly what the name says. A fast grand touring car. The laws of physics cannot be denied, a Z06 would own it on a racetrack. The Z06 owns the new 911 Turbo on a race track, and that was the target vehicle for the GT-R.

If the new top-end Camaro comes in at 3600lbs and 500 horsepower, with a really good suspension set up, limited slip, a functional aerodynamics package etc, I wouldn't feel comfortable making a bet on whether the GT-R would be able to keep up on a track. It's all-wheel-drive system is pretty trick, but a more powerful car with less weight and good suspension tuning should be able to at least keep up.

 

Is this the first EVER conversation about how a Japanese car is a heavy pig? I have to write this down on my calendar.

And that was NOT me sticking up for a Japanese car. For the record, I would NEVER own a Japanese brand car. I bleed red white and blue.
(now motorcycles is another matter.)

 

all i can say is that when the camaro comes out i cant wait till smoke a challenger

 

Ok, so let's consider Nurburgring...since that's where automotive companies tend to go to flog...err..test, their cars. Also, admittedly Nurburgring isn't the end all. But non-official results have the Nissan GT-R lapping the Ring at 7:38....and the C6 Z06's official time is 7:42 from what I can dig up (if it's not...let me know). Those times even with 25 fewer horsepower and roughly 770 more pounds than the Z06. So, not only did it beat the Z06, but it also beat the 911 Turbo around the Ring...Some people may argue that the GT-R wasn't in final trim, but still. And I'm still going to go with it being a track car...how do you explain Nissan using satellite technology coupled with the GT-R's computer in order to limit top speed while on everyday, public roads...then electronically taking the govern off when you physically enter Nissan approved tracks? Again, if I'm wrong...let me know, but be nice about it!

 

I was hoping it would be the Camaro but after seeing the production car pics of the front-end and interior, I just can't pull the trigger on it.

 

Then I would suggest you stick around for a while as we have not seen a production version yet, the current pics are pre-production.
Clyde

 

You guys better be quiet about the R35 before the GTR mafia comes in here and starts posting a zillion links to stories about it.

 

Think about that. A car with 25 fewer horsepower and 770 pounds more weight...if you look at the lateral grip available on the GT-R, it's no greater than that of the Z06 either.

The 7:38 time for the GT-R is a flat out lie. The car that did that certainly was not production spec. It's not even physically possible. Nissan is full of **** on that particular laptime.

 

Regardless of how it runs the GT-R has one obstacle it can't overcome.






It's Butta$$ FUGLY.