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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by formula79
I think the problem is the concept has been burned into our brains so long the production car looks off.
Branden, I think you're on to something.

We will have been deluged by images of the concepts for 3 years by the time a production version comes out.

I hope the production version doesn't give the impression that it's the concept's much frumpier mid-cycle enhancement.


Oh, and regarding hyperV6's comments about the Solstice and SSR. Me personally, I saw a HUGE difference in the proportions of those production cars compared to the concepts. Just me though...
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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In loooooooooooove!!
I cannot wait to sit in one. So so beautiful, so sexy. Why would you want a Mustang or a Challenger? This car has lines, curves, and power...
It does look lower and shorter then the Mustang, I guess putting to bed all the scares of it being a big boat. I think that the Mustang and GTO were good sized coupes, with the GTO having room to handle 2 adults and 2 small people in the back.
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
OK...here you go, comparison pictures. I took the bottom photos at the unveiling.

To me the changes are very minor....

The distance from the front wheel to the door looks shorter. Of course, B-pillars. Canopy looks slightly higher. Mirrors & door handles different. The wheels openings are slightly smaller too...leading to a slight increase in distance from the top edge of the fender to the openings.



Had to flip my shot to get similar angles...
If those are the door handles that are coming on it, they will be the first thing I get rid of, Ill probably shave them compeletly off or see if the aftermarket makes a set that work and look like the concepts. that the ONLY thing I can see that I would change. (im not saying it will have any effect on me buying one)

I have to say seeing these pictures today gave me goose bumps!! I cant wait for this to hit the streets! you guys of in AU make sure you keep your cameras close! we need as many spy shots as possible!

will this be our "news" for the month?
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Anyone care to make a stab at how wide those tires are?

I'd bet they've already done some solid work at where the suspension is going to mount, and more importantly, where the centerlines and pivot points will be. So while everything is subject to change, it shouldnt be a huuuuge amount.

Then look at the rear angled shot - in order to bring the wheels out to where the fenders are, there is probably a couple centimeters of space for an extra wide wheel/tire combo.

And then, it appears these fenders are not flared (but I could be wrong). If the "Z28" or "Performance Model" were to for some strange reason get more dramatic flared fenders, that would add even MORE room for wide tires.

Just another thing to think about.
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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While I seriously doubt that they kept the billet fuel filler on top of the rear 1/4.... I can't seem to find it...or a flap in the camo for it...?!?!???
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Thanks Doug, that allayed my fears.

Another one of the forthcoming ceaseless complaints. Those door handles are a very poor choice. There isn't a single thing rounded on the car and the spherical indentation looks terrible. Hope that's not going to stay.
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
OK...here you go, comparison pictures. I took the bottom photos at the unveiling.

To me the changes are very minor....

The distance from the front wheel to the door looks shorter. Of course, B-pillars. Canopy looks slightly higher. Mirrors & door handles different. The wheels openings are slightly smaller too...leading to a slight increase in distance from the top edge of the fender to the openings.
I think the appearance of more distance between wheel openings and the top edge is more the effect of the camo, than much actual change.

The entire front end actually looks slightly shorter overall. Also, the doors themselves appear a little taller.

My only concern is the 'hips' appear signifigantly toned down, and that was one of my favorite parts of the concept. But I'm hoping that's just another case of the camo doing it's job.

Nice comparison shots btw, just about perfect angles.
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
While I seriously doubt that they kept the billet fuel filler on top of the rear 1/4.... I can't seem to find it...or a flap in the camo for it...?!?!???
Here's my theory on where it's hiding. But it's just that, a theory.

Old Dec 12, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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Very impressive. I'm a bit shocked how close and how many pics were taken. Maybe the engineers we're on a smoke break.

The car looks great very true to the concept. Hard to see in the camo but besides the wheels, mirrors, OnStar antena and B-pillar. While on the B-pillar it does look a bit thick overall yet thin on the outside surface. We don't have much of a choice on this so no need to wine about it.

I think the most telling pic is the one with the Mustangs. There the Camaro looks like a real world car. It's got to be the first pic of the 5th Gen parked next to any car save for a Vette or other Chevy not in it's class. The 5th gen sits well next to the Mustang a bit lower in height and certainly a lower profile tumble home. Very sleek in comparison.

That last pic leads me to ask another question. Looks to me that GM has changed to rear trunk opening to roll down between the tailights.

Good stuff and a great little treat to make the long wait just a bit easier.
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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The wheels definitely don't fill the gap under the guards as well as the concept's. Well it was always expected to be the case... so no surprises there.

The B-pillar doesn't look out of place. All good so far!
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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i agree with some of you... the only thing that I don't really dig are the door handles... a bit too generic for such an iconic car no? other than that it looks great! the size of those 5 spoke wheels might be the size of the v6 wheels
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Good Ph.D
Thanks Doug, that allayed my fears.

Another one of the forthcoming ceaseless complaints. Those door handles are a very poor choice. There isn't a single thing rounded on the car and the spherical indentation looks terrible. Hope that's not going to stay.
I'm a little undecided about the door handles. I wanted the concept's handles even though that was never going to happen - but I'm not sure they could have done much better with the door handles than what we see in the pictures. They seem like off-the-shelf door handles (they're exactly what's on my G5) and that's very likely a HUGE cost save. If that's the case, I'll deal with it
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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I can see the fender flares in the second comparo pic Doug posted. The cammo definitely obscures, but they are there.

All the body creases/lines in the concept appear to be there. That would also lead me to believe that what's under the front/rear covers matches the concept as well.

The camo is really repressing all those character lines, which makes the car look more like a bland block. After carefully going over the pics, however, I have no worries at this point.

The pics confirm that we're getting a car that is as close to the concept as possible for a production-ready car.

And it appears shorter overall, given the shorter distance from front wheel to door, as seen in Doug's first set of pics. This has to make the weight freaks happy since there was much fear a few months ago that the production car would be longer than the concept.

Those fears appear to be unfounded, however, as the car also appears to be at least slightly smaller than a Mustang.
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
This picture has me (and probably Charlie & Bob) all warm & fuzzy....

http://images.leftlanenews.com/conte...y-camaro-6.jpg
It does look smaller than Mustang in that pic. I know it's not though....
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
This picture has me (and probably Charlie & Bob) all warm & fuzzy....

http://images.leftlanenews.com/conte...y-camaro-6.jpg
Seeing as how it's the first time that we've seen that the car is indeed markedly smaller than the current Mustang, I must wholeheartedly agree.

It's definitely not a land barge!



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