Camaro Pricing - Die Hards
I'm glad a consensus seems to have been reached here.
Stunned is a good word to use for what I was when people started insisting that a V8 Camaro couldn't be had for under 30k....then -now- I realize they must have been talking about a nicely optioned vehicle.
THAT makes sense.
I've mentioned my guesses before, but overall - I'm looking at two things while trying to guestimate price:
Pontiac G8 (more expensive than a Chevy counterpart would be)
Mustang GT - the only competition the Camaro really has to worry about. If you don't like that description, then....'The only direct competition'
Stunned is a good word to use for what I was when people started insisting that a V8 Camaro couldn't be had for under 30k....then -now- I realize they must have been talking about a nicely optioned vehicle.
I've mentioned my guesses before, but overall - I'm looking at two things while trying to guestimate price:
Pontiac G8 (more expensive than a Chevy counterpart would be)
Mustang GT - the only competition the Camaro really has to worry about. If you don't like that description, then....'The only direct competition'
Just to get a little more specific, here's what I envision:
2010:
250hp 3.6 V6: $20,995
300hp DI 3.6 V6: $23,995
430hp LS3: $27,995
2011:
add $3,000 for convertible option, available on all models
2012:
add 550hp LS8: $39,995
I figure that there will be at least $5,000 in available options (in addition to convertible) that can potentially increase the price, but those are my guesses at the base prices for each engine level. I expect the LS8 version to come pretty well loaded as-is.
I'd love to see the 250hp V6 drop off the list, and have the DI V6 come in at that price. I'm not sure how feasible that is, but I think it would be really great for Camaro if it were possible.
2010:
250hp 3.6 V6: $20,995
300hp DI 3.6 V6: $23,995
430hp LS3: $27,995
2011:
add $3,000 for convertible option, available on all models
2012:
add 550hp LS8: $39,995
I figure that there will be at least $5,000 in available options (in addition to convertible) that can potentially increase the price, but those are my guesses at the base prices for each engine level. I expect the LS8 version to come pretty well loaded as-is.
I'd love to see the 250hp V6 drop off the list, and have the DI V6 come in at that price. I'm not sure how feasible that is, but I think it would be really great for Camaro if it were possible.
Don't speak so soon..... if an import comes in with a substantial model that appeals, people could swing in their interest and the Camaro would have competition. The Nizzan Z is a top seller not need advertisement would be an example, I do agree that it's not a V8 though.
If we go based on the past, we would have the following:
V6 / Convertible
Z28 / Convertible
SS model / Convertible
I can't see the Z28 and SS differing very much in either looks or options.. maybe in Rims, stripes... we know they won't have the ground effects, lips, spoiler.... I say both the Z28 and SS would start above 30k. People would buy it for the look through the V6... those who want the Torque will pay. They know people are enticed to this vehicle already.
Knowing that, would you price the Camaro the same as the Mustangs?
If we go based on the past, we would have the following:
V6 / Convertible
Z28 / Convertible
SS model / Convertible
I can't see the Z28 and SS differing very much in either looks or options.. maybe in Rims, stripes... we know they won't have the ground effects, lips, spoiler.... I say both the Z28 and SS would start above 30k. People would buy it for the look through the V6... those who want the Torque will pay. They know people are enticed to this vehicle already.
Knowing that, would you price the Camaro the same as the Mustangs?
I'm glad a consensus seems to have been reached here.
Stunned is a good word to use for what I was when people started insisting that a V8 Camaro couldn't be had for under 30k....then -now- I realize they must have been talking about a nicely optioned vehicle.
THAT makes sense.
I've mentioned my guesses before, but overall - I'm looking at two things while trying to guestimate price:
Pontiac G8 (more expensive than a Chevy counterpart would be)
Mustang GT - the only competition the Camaro really has to worry about. If you don't like that description, then....'The only direct competition'

Stunned is a good word to use for what I was when people started insisting that a V8 Camaro couldn't be had for under 30k....then -now- I realize they must have been talking about a nicely optioned vehicle.
I've mentioned my guesses before, but overall - I'm looking at two things while trying to guestimate price:
Pontiac G8 (more expensive than a Chevy counterpart would be)
Mustang GT - the only competition the Camaro really has to worry about. If you don't like that description, then....'The only direct competition'

We already know MY2010 cars will go on sale in about a year from now. I can honestly see convertibles out by October of next year, making them also MY2010 vehicles. Then an early MY2011 top dog around late summer 2010.
My thoughts are top dog as fast as possible but definitely as a MY2011 as don't the new CAFE rules effect MY2012 vehicles?
Come On Jake!!!!! A 3.6 Firebird in 2001 was for $23,000.... so where did you come up with $20,999?... it's been 7 years since.
Now, since Oshawa is a Flex plant, you have to account for GM upcharging for their production lost of the GTO and Impala. You have to make up for the lost somewhere or you will be out of business.
If you have purchase grocery in the past couple weeks........ a 2 liter Coke used to cost .99 last year..... now it's $1.50. If you don't know about the current economy, the Feds are trying to beat a Recession in this nation.
Whatever the case man, if GM don't price this puppy under $30,000 for a V8, they won't have my pledge. They better price everything properly or future production will be out the door. If I were them, I would set a price now and ask for a deposit of commitment. This way they can target future sales and production much better. Give their supporters a break based on commitment. More than that, more people can set aside money for the future purchase. Also, if they set a price, they can rally up excitement and better anticipation for the release.
Now, since Oshawa is a Flex plant, you have to account for GM upcharging for their production lost of the GTO and Impala. You have to make up for the lost somewhere or you will be out of business.
If you have purchase grocery in the past couple weeks........ a 2 liter Coke used to cost .99 last year..... now it's $1.50. If you don't know about the current economy, the Feds are trying to beat a Recession in this nation.
Whatever the case man, if GM don't price this puppy under $30,000 for a V8, they won't have my pledge. They better price everything properly or future production will be out the door. If I were them, I would set a price now and ask for a deposit of commitment. This way they can target future sales and production much better. Give their supporters a break based on commitment. More than that, more people can set aside money for the future purchase. Also, if they set a price, they can rally up excitement and better anticipation for the release.
Just to get a little more specific, here's what I envision:
2010:
250hp 3.6 V6: $20,995
300hp DI 3.6 V6: $23,995
430hp LS3: $27,995
2011:
add $3,000 for convertible option, available on all models
2012:
add 550hp LS8: $39,995
I figure that there will be at least $5,000 in available options (in addition to convertible) that can potentially increase the price, but those are my guesses at the base prices for each engine level. I expect the LS8 version to come pretty well loaded as-is.
I'd love to see the 250hp V6 drop off the list, and have the DI V6 come in at that price. I'm not sure how feasible that is, but I think it would be really great for Camaro if it were possible.
2010:
250hp 3.6 V6: $20,995
300hp DI 3.6 V6: $23,995
430hp LS3: $27,995
2011:
add $3,000 for convertible option, available on all models
2012:
add 550hp LS8: $39,995
I figure that there will be at least $5,000 in available options (in addition to convertible) that can potentially increase the price, but those are my guesses at the base prices for each engine level. I expect the LS8 version to come pretty well loaded as-is.
I'd love to see the 250hp V6 drop off the list, and have the DI V6 come in at that price. I'm not sure how feasible that is, but I think it would be really great for Camaro if it were possible.
A big Dog, I agree with you that's the out the door price for the top Camaro. It's been said that for mid 40s, people would just go for a Vette. I would be crucified, but so many on this board believe that the Camaro V8 will be had for under $30,000.... I believe they are setting themselves up for a let down.
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Don't speak so soon..... if an import comes in with a substantial model that appeals, people could swing in their interest and the Camaro would have competition. The Nizzan Z is a top seller not need advertisement would be an example, I do agree that it's not a V8 though.
If we go based on the past, we would have the following:
V6 / Convertible
Z28 / Convertible
SS model / Convertible
If we go based on the past, we would have the following:
V6 / Convertible
Z28 / Convertible
SS model / Convertible
on top of all of that - Like you said, it's not a V8...if they offer a Hi-Po V6, that can compete well with the Import then we have a story - but I can't see an import being able to encroach upon the V8 Muscle car with any measure of ease. So that's not a worry in my mind.
Anyways,
I can't see the Z28 and SS differing very much in either looks or options.. maybe in Rims, stripes... we know they won't have the ground effects, lips, spoiler.... I say both the Z28 and SS would start above 30k. People would buy it for the look through the V6... those who want the Torque will pay. They know people are enticed to this vehicle already.
Call me foolish
- but, the Z28's going to be a beast. ~500hp limited production, etc...The SS is going to be the mainstream V8, the Mustang GT figher, if you will.
(Switch the badges if you like, it doesn't bother me) Using the above designations:
The SS WILL start below 30k. It has to, in order to compete with the Mustang. Nobody's going to take the Camaro seriously if it doesn't have a relatively affordable V8. Meaning, Sub-30k. Because not everybody CAN pay, even though they want the torque. (They'll go over to the Ford Showrooms if that's the case.)
So that's where I fundamentally disagree with you.
Yes. Knowing everything (I wish) I'd still price the Camaro close to the Mustangs. A BASE V8 with minimal trimmings for ~27,000. you watch.
You Got it....... logical sense of many stated going for the Vette at that price... but you know what, the Challenger is at that price and some are still going for it. Dodge does not plan on making a V6 Challenger either hahahah!
You don't see Dodge backing down from the $40s to compete with the Mustang do you?....... so it be ridiculous to assume that GM will when they have a couple factors going against them in the manufacturing of this vehicle.
Dudes, if the price comes out steep, we can purchase the V6 version and call it a day hahahaahh!
You don't see Dodge backing down from the $40s to compete with the Mustang do you?....... so it be ridiculous to assume that GM will when they have a couple factors going against them in the manufacturing of this vehicle.
Dudes, if the price comes out steep, we can purchase the V6 version and call it a day hahahaahh!

A big Dog, I agree with you that's the out the door price for the top Camaro. It's been said that for mid 40s, people would just go for a Vette. I would be crucified, but so many on this board believe that the Camaro V8 will be had for under $30,000.... I believe they are setting themselves up for a let down.
I could buy a Vette today, however I'm not a Vette kind of guy and for the most part, most Camaro buyers aren't either.
My guess is that the entry V8 Camaro will be slightly more than a fully loaded Malibu LTZ. So with inflation, etc. a V8 Camaro could squeeze in just under $30k... however 1-year from now based on where this economy is going... I don't think its likely. However it won't be much more than that... $32k tops.
Why buy a 3200 pound Corvette when you can get a 3700 Camaro for the same money? More car for the money [roll eyes]. I dont give a flying f**k what the V-6 sells for, but I fugure the LS3 base Camaro will sticker for $28,995 plus destination and options. The GTO didnt do too well priced over $30,000 and neither will the new Camaro. Any horsepower less than 400 for that price and GM can pound sand.


