STOP - JUST STOP!!!!!

If the LS3 (or some new DI version) is the base v8 in the Camaro, there is NO WAY they will start above $30K. The car would be still-born as that would represent a monster premium over the Mustang GT. Why would GM do this after pouring millions of dollars into the program?
While it looks like they are integrating some great options into this car so that it appeals to a broader base than just enthusiasts; they remain fully aware that their most direct competition is the Mustang! The prices will be comparable.

 

Definitely agreed. I was thinking more along the lines of the additional attractiveness of the additional ponies, and how that *could* justify a higher price...

 

[quote=JakeRobb;5170066]How does knowing which vehicles are built on the same line have any impact on your respect for a car?


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I was just kidding around. I don't have respect for ANY Japanese car, regardless of where it's made. And was just making fun that the Mustang shares an assembly line with a Mazda.

 

Please put down the crack pipe.

Taking a screen shot of the this so I can post an I told you so when pricing and options are released.

 

Correct. You're not just paying for the parts of an engine. You're paying a premium for horsepower. Just because the LS3 embarrasses the 4.6 in a Mustang GT and might cost roughly the same amount to build does NOT mean GM is going to charge you the same amount.

Personally, I might look for the L76 to be the Mustang GT competitor, if you're looking for a V8 under $30,000. It would still have roughly 60 more horsepower than the GT (or 30 more once the newly designed Mustang comes out in 2010). This leaves us with an interesting question, does the LS3 make it into Camaro or could it jump from L76 to the blown LS8? Or does LS3 make it instead of L76?

GM does have a lot of options as far as engines go for Camaro, and I'm sure it's keeping the competition guessing as much as we are.

EDIT: Tom, if GM does somehow offer the LS3 in a Camaro for under 30, and they keep weight relatively in check, I just might be able to overlook the headache the interior gives me.

 

If car companies only worked on logic then we would never have a Vette or Camaro and certainly no ZR1 or Hummers at all. No we are all in dreamland because the types of cars that get our blood moving and keep us posting here year after year are not the logical cars.

The base V8 in the 2010 Camaro will be on par with Mustang GT prices. It happened to be the LT1/LS1 in the 4th gen. So in the 2010 Camaro if it's the LS3 or L76 expect that to be in that price range.

I also don't see why people would think the LS3 in the Camaro would cost soo much. Forget the power it's the standard SBC in 2008. If history means anything and sharing the great Corvette engine with the Camaro is so odd why has the L98, LT1, LS1 all been shared in the past. Each one more powerful than the prior and all standard issue in the Camaro or Vette. These are mass produced engines made for performance cars. It would be silly for GM not to use the LS3 in the Camaro.

I don't know if this is still done but there was a time when getting a EPA certification for an engine and trans combo carried a cost and that was one of the reasons the Camaro and Vette shared the same engine and trans. If this is still true then GM would actually need to pay more to use the L76 over the LS3 because it's a already certified combo used in the C6.

Was a *cough* 305hp LS1 *cough* in the 1998 Z28 any less impressive than say a rated 400hp LS3 in the 2010 Camaro......

 

Please do...
but you have to agree to re-post that screeen shot when I'm right

I just priced a Mustang GT....
$26,080 - GT Deluxe MSRP
+ 5% Increase in MSRP over the next 2 years MSRP
$27,384 - 2010 MSRP

So, do you really think that the new Camaro BASE v8 is going to be more than $2,600 over the Mustang GT?! I hope not or it won't be around for long.

 

No, I think he's guessing the "base" V8 Camaro will not contain the LS3.

 

Other than the L76 being made by our Aussie friends and shipped up in the G8, does anyone know if GM has developed this for cars? -Especially since production for the car is only 8-9 months away.

Agreed - I went back to search the other engine threads and no one, that I saw, explained how the LS3 costs more than the L76.

Without seeing a North American produced car application L76, what else will go into the Camaro? Of course, I guess one of the expected DI engines may turn everything upside down.

 

Good thread I started huh? When it comes down to it, COST is what matters the most to us consumer and GM supporters. Vehicle is release date is almost important ofcourse.

At any rate, a G8 power driver is not under $30,000, thus the V8 will go hand over foot costing more than that. I say once again you are looking at least $40k out the door complete.

 

No mentioning crack pipe needed, but anyone thinking a fully loaded Camaro (SS version?) going for less than $30k is nutz. Fbodies either V8 or V6 have always MSRP more than that of a Mustang. Look at the 4th generation Fbodies, Trans Am Ram Air cost more than the Camaro SS, then came the Stang GT at the lower end.

When you look at it, these New Camaros will come fully stock period... No Catback,Rims, Wheels, Stripes etc. needed. compared to the Mustangs..... all this will be priced in.

You want the look, you will pay the price...... if not, look for a used one 4 years down the road and it will be under $30K hahaha

 

My official guess is that the least expensive LS3 Camaro will be available for $27-29k (if sold at MSRP).

Screenshot it if you must, but I won't edit the post.

 

Not sure if it will be an LS3 or not, but you can screenshot me as well. A BASE MODEL V-8 will come in under 30K. You start adding options and I fully agree it will be easy to pay 35-40K for a loaded SS camaro.

 

I fully expect the basic V-8 camaro to MSRP for about 27,000. No idea about the engine, but it'll probably be a nice 360+ hp mill. Detuned LS3 or DI 4.9, who knows, who cares. If Fbodyfather's comments about weight are to be taken completely at face value, the base V-8 camaro will be outperforming the 2010 'Stang by a pretty decent margin in all areas, regardless of whether it's with a 365hp or 430hp engine.

 

I don't think anyone would agrue with you on that