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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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My dad ordered his '68 SS396/325hp, as a Vette bronze hard top, black p-leather interior, 4spd, 3 series posi rear, superwide oval Uniroyal tires, for just over $3,800.00.
For just a little more money he could've bought a '67 L88-427/435hp Vette, used, but he wanted a Camaro.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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GM has said repeatedly that Camaro will be priced and marketed to be competitive with Mustang. Why does everyone insist on comparing it to Challenger SRT-8?

Just because the 1970 Challenger was competitive with the 1970 Camaro doesn't mean that the same will apply 40 years later.

I expect that an LS3-powered Camaro will come in comfortably under 30k, but it will not be hard to option one up past 35k.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Dodge has decided to cash in on the Barrett Jackson hype and fame. They see the original mopar supercars going for 6 or 7 figures every time they tune in, so they think the Challenger is a premium vehicle. Hence the decision at first to only make it as a 6.1L 425 hp 6 speed coupe. I think after looking at the market, the V6 version (only avail as an auto and probably in the high 20's) made sense to make it more feasible to those who are not Barrett Jackson buyers. The problem is, their 3.5L V6 version will be too heavy to be competitive with the Mustang or Camaro V6 and will be priced close to the V8 Camaro and the Mustang GT. The 5.7L will be ok, but priced about higher than a Mustang special edition (Boss?) and probably an upgraded Camaro, both of which will probably be much faster. Finally, the SRT-8 will be slaughtered by the GT500 and the Z28, and in that price bracket, all three will be an option to the buyer in a segment where performance is VERY important.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thGen
Dodge has decided to cash in on the Barrett Jackson hype and fame. They see the original mopar supercars going for 6 or 7 figures every time they tune in, so they think the Challenger is a premium vehicle. Hence the decision at first to only make it as a 6.1L 425 hp 6 speed coupe. I think after looking at the market, the V6 version (only avail as an auto and probably in the high 20's) made sense to make it more feasible to those who are not Barrett Jackson buyers. The problem is, their 3.5L V6 version will be too heavy to be competitive with the Mustang or Camaro V6 and will be priced close to the V8 Camaro and the Mustang GT. The 5.7L will be ok, but priced about higher than a Mustang special edition (Boss?) and probably an upgraded Camaro, both of which will probably be much faster. Finally, the SRT-8 will be slaughtered by the GT500 and the Z28, and in that price bracket, all three will be an option to the buyer in a segment where performance is VERY important.
All true, but it's still a beautiful car, and the loyalists will and have lined up to buy it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If the Camaro was not coming back, there would be a Challenger in my future. (SRT of course)
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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All true, but it's still a beautiful car, and the loyalists will and have lined up to buy it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If the Camaro was not coming back, there would be a Challenger in my future. (SRT of course)
yes, those that can afford it.

And I've said before, I want a V8 Camaro for about 25, if not a high horse V6 for 21 at most. The Challenger will be way more than that.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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yes, those that can afford it.

And I've said before, I want a V8 Camaro for about 25, if not a high horse V6 for 21 at most. The Challenger will be way more than that.
The Camaro is how GM is keeping me as a customer. I've been a life long GM owner. Then about a year and a half ago, I bought a new Charger Daytona. LOVE IT. I even toyed around with the idea of getting a SRT Charger, but Camaro is my love. So GM saved me from crossing over to the dark side.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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The Camaro is how GM is keeping me as a customer.
The Camaro is how GM is get me as a CAR customer. I've considered purchasing a Tahoe but ended up with a Chrysler Pacifica due to the MPG. I really like the new Lambda platform but transaction prices were basically at MSRP last summer when I needed to make the purchase. Besides, that's my wife's vehicle... I needed that extra wiggle room in the budget for 2009
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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If they can price the no option G8 GT (L76) at $29,995 then they can price a no option camaro with a L76 under $30,000. We don't know what powertrains will be out, but I speculate there will be 3 to 4 levels of powertrain, not necessarily all availabe the first year.

I have a feeling, judging by the general development theme of this car and the current innovations in powertrain development technologies, we could be in for a few surprises regarding powertrain.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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If they drop their other lines in Canada and just build the Camaro out of that plant...... would you bet your life on them not pricing in the cost factor and the lost of product to make up for the difference? The Mustangs are continuos production out of Ford existing plants..........Camaro are new production as whole.. that's the biggest difference.
I find it unlikely they will only build Camaro. Oshawa is being retooled as a Flex plant that can build both front and RWD cars. I'd say that something else will be built there eventually one way or another.

The 2005 Mustang was not continuous production out of an existing Plant. The Dearborn plant that built every mustang from 1964-1994 closed at the end of 1994 production.

A whole new, RWD line had to be tooled at AutoAlliance (Mazda) in Flat Rock Michigan to build the 2005-Current Mustang - in the same plant that builds the FWD Mazda 6.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
I find it unlikely they will only build Camaro. Oshawa is being retooled as a Flex plant that can build both front and RWD cars. I'd say that something else will be built there eventually one way or another.

I wonder if there will be a FWD car made on the Camaro platform and if thats the case how hard it would be to make an AWD Camaro?
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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A whole new, RWD line had to be tooled at AutoAlliance (Mazda) in Flat Rock Michigan to build the 2005-Current Mustang - in the same plant that builds the FWD Mazda 6.
Really? wow, I just lost what ever respect I had for the new Mustang.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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GM has said repeatedly that Camaro will be priced and marketed to be competitive with Mustang. Why does everyone insist on comparing it to Challenger SRT-8?

Just because the 1970 Challenger was competitive with the 1970 Camaro doesn't mean that the same will apply 40 years later.

I expect that an LS3-powered Camaro will come in comfortably under 30k, but it will not be hard to option one up past 35k.
GM says a lot of things and the world has changed in the last 2 years the concept has been out.

It's time to stop dreaming, there is no way in the world an ls3 camaro will be under 30k.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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GM says a lot of things and the world has changed in the last 2 years the concept has been out.

It's time to stop dreaming, there is no way in the world an ls3 camaro will be under 30k.
I tend to agree with Jake more than I do this. The 2008 Mustang GT MSRP starts at $26k. Granted, no IRS and no 430 HP... but that's way south of $30k. Camaro prices are going to mimic the Mustang, MUCH more than they do the Challenger SRT8.
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDarknFast
I tend to agree with Jake more than I do this. The 2008 Mustang GT MSRP starts at $26k. Granted, no IRS and no 430 HP... but that's way south of $30k. Camaro prices are going to mimic the Mustang, MUCH more than they do the Challenger SRT8.
The mustang GT is 300hp, solid axle

The base g8 GT is 30k @ 360hp

Logic says(even GM is saying the v8 option might cost more) that the camaro with a the 430 ls3 would be 30k or even more.

You guys thinking otherwise are in dreamland
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by christianjax
Really? wow, I just lost what ever respect I had for the new Mustang.
How does knowing which vehicles are built on the same line have any impact on your respect for a car?

Originally Posted by BigDarknFast
I tend to agree with Jake more than I do this. The 2008 Mustang GT MSRP starts at $26k. Granted, no IRS and no 430 HP... but that's way south of $30k. Camaro prices are going to mimic the Mustang, MUCH more than they do the Challenger SRT8.
My guess is that the Ford mod motor is more expensive to build than an LS3. The horsepower advantage is primarily due to the added displacement, and the size of the holes has very little to do with the cost of an engine.



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