Ok, using your numbers we take 260 rwhp/.86 = 302 flywheel horsepower. You're telling me you only gain 8 flywheel horsepower from LTs, CAI and a cutout/catback?

Oldham, weren't you the same guy I argued with for a long time about what stock LS1s pull on the dyno? I believed I told you they can roll 315-320 rwhp and you argued until you were blue in the face that they would never dyno that much. I believe you ate your words then, didn't ya?

It's simple...all of you who are disagreeing with me are clueless. You think I'm an idiot for making these claims...all the while. those with a clue are sitting back laughing at your stupid asses. I would love for you guys to explain how these LT1s with CAI and LTs are trapping 106-107 with only what, 310 flywheel hp? Please, humor me.

 

Just because you agree with him doesn't make him right...it just means both of you are uneducated.

 

No, what I'm telling you is bone stock, an LT1 (using a 1994 as example) is making 275hp at the flywheel. You might pick up 40-45hp at the flywheels, but no way in hell are you picking it up at the wheels. Sorry. Ain't gonna happen. Using a figure of 15% drivetrain loss and coming up with 310hp at the rear wheels is REDICULOUS. That would mean you were making 365hp at the crank. That's picking up 90hp from headers and cai. Ain't happening.

As you were saying, who's clueless? And no, I never did eat my words, because I'm still yet to see a dyno sheet from a bone stock LS1 down to the paper airfilter. And stop trying to change the subject. Don't get all pissy with me just because you're full of

I can't believe you actually had the nerve to put a shout out to all the LT1 owners to come and defend you, and think that they actually would defend your incoherent and rediculous claims. Show me a car that's going to pick up a 90hp increase from a header and cai install. Then after that, you'll have your 310rwhp from an LT1 with headers and a cai.

The rest of us LT1 owners aren't interested in looking like idiots. You're on your own. Now, did I come in here to personally attack you? No. But you left open invitation for everyone to post, and if you don't agree with me, so be it. Just don't expect me to tell you what you want to hear just because you posted a thread begging for help from fellow LT1 owners.

 

You say your WS6 has 310hp and it's only running 14s @ 99.xx mph? My condolences. With 310hp you should easily be running into the 3 figures range with your mph, and well into the 13s.

 

I always thought that when computing drivetrain loss you were to multiply. For an example:
260X1.15 for a 15 percent drivetrain loss.
You would come up with 299 then.

Am i the only one to ever hear that?

 

yeah, you CAN multilply, but not that way. here-

350 fwhp multiplied by .85 (same as 100% minus 15%, ok... i lied, you have to subtract, too) equals 297.5 rwhp. the way you did it will give you a wrong number every time- 297.5 multiplied by 1.15 is 342.125. confused? you shouldn't be. your 100% numbers are different.

and i, for one, find it hard to believe that headers, cai and catback will have an LT1 putting out 365 crank hp. to be honest, i don't think that the stock LT1 cam is large enough for headers to make that big of a difference or make that much power. but hey, what do i know? we had a fellow here a few months ago claim that his header, cai, catback, geared m6 LT1 took out a Z06 on a highway roll.

 

why are people arguing over stupid dyno numbers when the trap speed shows LT1s w/LT's,cai,catback run just about the same numbers as an LS1? why do people get off on looking at a piece of paper that tells em what power they theoretically put out,when actual results are just a day at the track away?