When talking about HP you should always be specific . Because people like Robb4964 knows better then to beleive some Moron making BS claims . If you would have said " CATBACK ,CUTOUT , w/e , that makes all the difference in the world when it comes to estimating HP . And also explains some of the unexplained . Like where did the extra 25 HP come from ? It is not anyones job to assume . When you read someone has added a set of LTs you dont just say " well , gee , that person also added a catback " how the **** do I know hat you have put on your damn car . It would be moronic to make assumptions like that . Dont generalize me ******* because you didnt explain something . Maybe if you wouldnt have left it out this wouldnever have started becasue it would have been more feasable to me as to where the HP came from . ....******** .

 

Right here , you are refering to Headers , because if you changed the stock Intake on the stock LT1 w/stock heads you are wasting your time . The Manifolds flow fine . So you would be relying on The headers for the HP gain . You didnt say anything else about other stuff in this thread . This is the post I was refering to .

 

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Originally posted by robb4964


LT's will not yeild you 50 hp on a stock LT1 ...Thats rediculous . And the stock manifold flows plenty for a stock LT1 and upgrading the intake wouldnt get you any more HP on a stock LT1 .
I do agree that the stock manifolds suck badly on the LT1 and choke it out on top end . But it is not worth 50 HP .
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Posted bye 97bowtie
Read my post again - I said LTs and intake. If you don't know that LTs/CAI will give you ~ 50 hp or so on a LT1, you haven't spent much time around/racing the cars...and if you have, you didn't pay much attention.
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Talk about reading and comprehension , I made it clear right here , and you replyed as if you where completely oblivious to anything I had said . I cleary explained here as to why I didnt think so and you didnt respond about what I said . You just said " read it again " I already read the damn thing !
The you said " If I didnt know then I dont spend much time around racing " ...Do you ever go to the track stupid ? It is amazing how may LT/CAI cars that trap 97-100 MPH .
in my mind , Majority rules . If you got these kind of results , good for you , but they are not typical . Im sure it can happen in some cases , being the LT1 in sig will run a 12 now that it has headers on it . And will trap 105 or so . " its geared too " But I whooped him on the highway in it this morning and it is a good running LT1 . And with the LT's , Dual fraiction clutch , CAI , computer edit , It still wont trap 107 . Mine will and its stock " exept lid "
Another thing , if 2 cars made the same HP , it does not mean they will both run the same times . Cars deliver HP differently .

 

Flamesuit on! Things are getting nasty in here fast! Here is a good saying that pertains to this thread, "assumption is the mother of all f***ups."

Let's say a stock LT1 T-56 averages about 255 rwhp. 97bowtie is saying with long tubes, full exhaust, and a cai only, the average T-56 LT1 will now average 305 rwhp?

 

Yeah , sounds like garbage to those of us who know . And man , I didnt start the flame fest , he did . He did the mature thing and started calling me names becase I didnt agree with him ... So , I gues its on . 305 crank HP i could see , but not rear wheel . His traps still are not as hi as mine , and my car is pretty much stock on street tires with a screwed clutch . what does that say ?

And the assumption part , so true . But he was calling me a dumbass because I didnt assume something ....Come on man , How rediculous is that ?

 

I want 97bowtie to come back in here and swear to us that the average stock LT1 will gain an average of 50 rwhp with long tubes, full exhaust and a cai only. I think this is what he is claiming, right? 97bowtie, what is your exact claim?

 

im not sure he knows what he is claiming . I still have yet to hear about the " Intake " that he has . Everyone knows stock LT1 intakes supply plenty of flow for stock LT1 heads . Headers or not .

 

You must be right about the intake. I've never heard of anybody messing with the stock intake unless they have heads and/or a cam.

Heck, my turd only gains about 40 rwhp with tons of bolt ons: full exhaust, maf, t.b., intake manifold, pulleys, timing adjuster, chip, etc. It gains 100 rwhp with all of these bolt ons, plus stage 3 ported heads, big cams, lighweight pistons, etc. check it out at www.andersonfordmotorsport.com if you care. Look under project vehicles.

 

Trap speeds dont lie,robb get off your high horse bolt on (cai,cat back, and LT's) LT1 cars trap 105.5-107 which is right in LS1 territory,yeah you can keep saying the car puts out 305 flywheel hp,who gives a ****,that would just mean the LT1's 305HP will pull just as hard as the LS1's 345HP now how stupid does that sound?a 107mph in an LS1 is no different then a 107 in an LT1 that means they are both pulling at the same rate,and considering the gear ratios and drag coefficiencies are the same,they will continue to pull the same till redline (LT1 will probly run out of breath 200-300rpm earlier). As for him stating LT's only?i dont see how any sane person would do long tubes and nothing else,so of course i was assuming at least a cutout/cat back and maybe a cai.97bowtie, dont assume everyone here is of normal intelligence.......

 

What can I say ?your an Idiot ! Denial is so Ugly ....Im sorry , you car , because you drive it , is WAY faster then every other LS1 on the planet . .. BTW , 105-16..w/e. still aint 107 . Im still trapping higher stock . GET OVER IT .......

 

Also , I never said anything about his trap speeds not being 107 . I dont care what it is . I dont care what rate it pulls . All im saying is that LT1's dont typically, NOT TYPICAL ! run that fast with those mods . If yours do , good for you . But form what I have seen over the years , most dont respond like that . There are some that are just down right quick . Like I said , mine ran an easy 13.2 second run of the night . Spinning Drag's all the way thrue first . And it had no headers . Now that it does , Im sure it will trap 105 , maybe 106 . But I waxed him today out of 3rd . Say what you want . Im just saying to get 50 HP tp the wheels , you need more the headers ..And dont say another ****ing thing about " INTAKE " because it wont do a damn thing for a stock LT1 .

 

WTFs going on with you??are you on medication what kind of reply was that? do you have narcicistic rage? who said my car is way faster than anything??ive seen much lower trap speeds for LS1's then 107 but its safe to say a long tubed LT1 will at least hang with a stock/lightly bodded LS1.Sounds like your the one in denial if youre the one tryin to deny all the facts. Now get your **** together you sound like a ****ing 2 year old.

 

now i know your full of ****,spinning drags all through first and still cut a 1.9 60' time?Not possible at these power levels bud. Sounds like your racing bad drivers.The trap speed is the best indicator of HP (other than a Mustang Dyno) pay attention to those.

 

LOL , A 2 year old . Thats great Mauri ...I was actually refering to 97bowtie's car , not yours . I forgot to specify because he is the one I am arguing with . BTW , Im a little drunk so forgive the Drifting

Im just saying that 50 RWHP is hard to swallow . Thats it . Its that simple ! Not putting down LT1's . SO stop being offended .

 

30 people I know saw it ..You want phone numbers smart *** ? I can give them to you , you can call the guy who bought the damn car . It pulled a 1.9 spinning . They where some BIG *** TIRES ! Drag slicks ....On the first run he pulled a 2.0 w/a 13.4