2 gts and a ls1!
will 49RWHP make it easier?
whether it gains 50 or 500 it doesnt matter what the dyno tells you,the trap speed will confirm what levels of power you are putting out (after corrections for weather of course)
whether it gains 50 or 500 it doesnt matter what the dyno tells you,the trap speed will confirm what levels of power you are putting out (after corrections for weather of course)
did you spin out BEFORE you started moving??whatever that doesnt really matter when the subject at hand is LTs on an LT1. BTW id find it amusing if you can actually post all 30#s of the people that were there LOL.If i call them,how would i know they aint lying???
Originally posted by MauriSSio
will 49RWHP make it easier?
whether it gains 50 or 500 it doesnt matter what the dyno tells you,the trap speed will confirm what levels of power you are putting out (after corrections for weather of course)
will 49RWHP make it easier?
whether it gains 50 or 500 it doesnt matter what the dyno tells you,the trap speed will confirm what levels of power you are putting out (after corrections for weather of course)
Originally posted by MauriSSio
did you spin out BEFORE you started moving??whatever that doesnt really matter when the subject at hand is LTs on an LT1. BTW id find it amusing if you can actually post all 30#s of the people that were there LOL.If i call them,how would i know they aint lying???
did you spin out BEFORE you started moving??whatever that doesnt really matter when the subject at hand is LTs on an LT1. BTW id find it amusing if you can actually post all 30#s of the people that were there LOL.If i call them,how would i know they aint lying???
Originally posted by Steve Y
You must be right about the intake. I've never heard of anybody messing with the stock intake unless they have heads and/or a cam.
Heck, my turd only gains about 40 rwhp with tons of bolt ons: full exhaust, maf, t.b., intake manifold, pulleys, timing adjuster, chip, etc. It gains 100 rwhp with all of these bolt ons, plus stage 3 ported heads, big cams, lighweight pistons, etc. check it out at www.andersonfordmotorsport.com if you care. Look under project vehicles.
You must be right about the intake. I've never heard of anybody messing with the stock intake unless they have heads and/or a cam.
Heck, my turd only gains about 40 rwhp with tons of bolt ons: full exhaust, maf, t.b., intake manifold, pulleys, timing adjuster, chip, etc. It gains 100 rwhp with all of these bolt ons, plus stage 3 ported heads, big cams, lighweight pistons, etc. check it out at www.andersonfordmotorsport.com if you care. Look under project vehicles.
You know i try to keep up on the kill section, but damn, everytime something ends up turning into a loong *** thread that takes forever and a day to read. And even after i read all the looong, most of the time pointless posts....i still leave as confused as i started
Robb...internet toughguy? I would punch you in the ***in teeth if I met your ignorant *** in person. You have absolutely no ***in clue what you're talking about. NONE. When I say 'intake', it's obvious I mean cold air intake seeing as how I haven't made reference to an intake manifold this whole thread.
As far as beating my LT1? I would love to see you beat my mid 12 second LT1 that traps 112 in the 1/4. If you're referring to my new LS1 SS that traps 106, it's bone *** stock down to the paper filter.
I'm done arguing with you...you're too ****in stupid and anyone with half a brain can see that. Your ignorance has me at a total loss of words. I'm going to post a link to this thread in LT1 tech so hopefully they can set your stupid *** straight.
BTW - eat a dick.
As far as beating my LT1? I would love to see you beat my mid 12 second LT1 that traps 112 in the 1/4. If you're referring to my new LS1 SS that traps 106, it's bone *** stock down to the paper filter.
I'm done arguing with you...you're too ****in stupid and anyone with half a brain can see that. Your ignorance has me at a total loss of words. I'm going to post a link to this thread in LT1 tech so hopefully they can set your stupid *** straight.
BTW - eat a dick.
Last edited by 97bowtie; Mar 13, 2004 at 10:23 PM.
Originally posted by MauriSSio
13.09 @ 108.54 vs. 13.01 @ 109.22.
well it would be a very good race, im sure you would win 90% of the time from a stop. from a roll it would be a toss up, but im sure you wouldnt "roll" on me, especially considering i got longtubes now.
13.09 @ 108.54 vs. 13.01 @ 109.22.
well it would be a very good race, im sure you would win 90% of the time from a stop. from a roll it would be a toss up, but im sure you wouldnt "roll" on me, especially considering i got longtubes now.
that time i cut was on a pretty hot day (over 90 degrees) with audible detonation in 2nd and 3rd gear. with better air and no det i'm pretty sure the car can go quicker. and long tubes? how are you passing the visual on emissions? it's all good, though. a sleeper cam is going in soon enough to take care of jokers like you.
on that run I had an ignition miss (bad cap) and a badly slipping clutch (wouldnt even chirp second). was WAY over revving in third too. ill post a vid of that run (smoking an LS1 btw
) ive also done a few other tuning adjustments since then as well...
dunno about emissions yet, gonna worry about that later (december), hopefully find the hookup somewhere. if not, well the long tubes were pretty easy. so ill just swap some stock manifolds for a few minutes.
) ive also done a few other tuning adjustments since then as well...dunno about emissions yet, gonna worry about that later (december), hopefully find the hookup somewhere. if not, well the long tubes were pretty easy. so ill just swap some stock manifolds for a few minutes.
robb is a little cocky, but he's right. 49 out of 50 times no LT1 will put down over 300 RWHP with intake/full exhaust unless it's a freak. I sure as hell know mine doesn't put down near 300 RWHP with intake, new plugs/wires, headers into a 2.5 y-pipe through a gutted cat and out a cutout. Also have all free mods.
I'm having my car dynoed in 2 weeks (and yeah this thread will be locked before then). I have catback, cutout, cai, 1.6rr's, airfoil (weeeee!), and 3200 stall. I'll post results and hopefully the graph when it happens
Robb you need some english classes because reading through 8 pages of your worthless dribble, and inabilty to form a readable sentence just made me dyslexic (sic?).
Now on to the debate at hand... I personally know the guy 97bowtie is referring to that put 310 down with just LT's and CAI, another guy in my club just put down 279 in a LT1 with his only mod being a cutout. The major benefit the LS1 has over the LT1 is the heads, stock for stock, once you start modding all bets are off. A good running LT1 with LT's and some sort of catback, cutout, etc. and CAI should be a handful for a stock or lightly modded LS1 car and may edge it out. I was out at the track recently and watched a C5 repeatedly trap 100 mph. I also spanked several LS1 cars when all I had was CAI and exhaust, it can, and has been done. The LS1 is an amazing motor and I will own one very soon, in a vette, but the LT1 is just as capable especially when you start modding. Now go ahead and tell me I don't know anything and I have no experience with these cars.
Now on to the debate at hand... I personally know the guy 97bowtie is referring to that put 310 down with just LT's and CAI, another guy in my club just put down 279 in a LT1 with his only mod being a cutout. The major benefit the LS1 has over the LT1 is the heads, stock for stock, once you start modding all bets are off. A good running LT1 with LT's and some sort of catback, cutout, etc. and CAI should be a handful for a stock or lightly modded LS1 car and may edge it out. I was out at the track recently and watched a C5 repeatedly trap 100 mph. I also spanked several LS1 cars when all I had was CAI and exhaust, it can, and has been done. The LS1 is an amazing motor and I will own one very soon, in a vette, but the LT1 is just as capable especially when you start modding. Now go ahead and tell me I don't know anything and I have no experience with these cars.
Originally posted by 97bowtie
Read my post again - I said LTs and intake. If you don't know that LTs/CAI will give you ~ 50 hp or so on a LT1, you haven't spent much time around/racing the cars...and if you have, you didn't pay much attention.
Read my post again - I said LTs and intake. If you don't know that LTs/CAI will give you ~ 50 hp or so on a LT1, you haven't spent much time around/racing the cars...and if you have, you didn't pay much attention.

Sorry, Bowtie, I'd love to agree with you, because I'm also a fellow LT1 owner, but I can't do it this time. You must have one freak of a car if you picked up 50hp from a pair of longtubes and a cai.
If that case was typical, everybody would do it. Hell, I wouldn't have even bothered going out and getting a Hot Cam setup. Normally a good LT1 will dyno in the 260hp range, but I don't see 310hp at the wheels with just those mods. With longtubes and a cai, I can see about 310 at the crank, but that's it.
Originally posted by Dan Oldham
Ok, 97 Bowtie, I saw your post for "calling all cars" in the Lounge to set Robb straight on the fact that headers and cai make 50hp.
Sorry, Bowtie, I'd love to agree with you, because I'm also a fellow LT1 owner, but I can't do it this time. You must have one freak of a car if you picked up 50hp from a pair of longtubes and a cai.
If that case was typical, everybody would do it. Hell, I wouldn't have even bothered going out and getting a Hot Cam setup. Normally a good LT1 will dyno in the 260hp range, but I don't see 310hp at the wheels with just those mods. With longtubes and a cai, I can see about 310 at the crank, but that's it.
Ok, 97 Bowtie, I saw your post for "calling all cars" in the Lounge to set Robb straight on the fact that headers and cai make 50hp.

Sorry, Bowtie, I'd love to agree with you, because I'm also a fellow LT1 owner, but I can't do it this time. You must have one freak of a car if you picked up 50hp from a pair of longtubes and a cai.
If that case was typical, everybody would do it. Hell, I wouldn't have even bothered going out and getting a Hot Cam setup. Normally a good LT1 will dyno in the 260hp range, but I don't see 310hp at the wheels with just those mods. With longtubes and a cai, I can see about 310 at the crank, but that's it.
Last edited by Kreinmc; Mar 14, 2004 at 04:19 AM.


