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LPE 211/219 or Portworks Stage II

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Lightbulb LPE 211/219 or Portworks Stage II

If i do go for the LPE option, I will have the heads ported. Also, does EPortworks include new rockers?

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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do you mean llyod elliot. His heads and cam packages dont come with rocker arms. The heads come complete with hardware and springs. The cam is custom ground to the heads and you liking.
If i was buying heads and cam i would go with ai or le. Just look around and see the results.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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If Lingenfelter is an option, I'd go that route in a heartbeat over anything LE.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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why do you say that?
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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why do you say that?
C'mon....comparing a legacy with the $$ of R&D that has gone into proven combos versusa guy doing econo porting out of his shop by hand? With cams specified by an internet wanna-be? There is simply no comparison.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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a genuine answer to your question is this . . . .

my LE2 cam is about 230 duration and nothing like the LPE 211/219 cam. My LE1 cam has alot more duration and power band moved up higher in the RPM range than the LPE cam mentioned.

LPE 211-219 - great for a mild idle, passes emissions with ease and makes power right off idle to 6000 RPM or so. This cam has eniough low and mid range power to work well with b bodys using stock gears and no stall.

LE2 cam will really want at least a 2800 stall and 3.42 gears (more gear and stall is always better). It will have a much more radical idle and not pass emissions. It will pull hard to 6600 RPM or so but not make much power below 2000 RPM.

The cams you mentioned are really nothing like each other at all and there are lots of cam,s in between to chose from.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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whats your goal for the car?

If your not worried about the best 1/4 mile times and want some tq. I would go with a little smaller cam like the 211.

If you want more top end go bigger...depends on what you want from the car.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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C'mon....comparing a legacy with the $$ of R&D that has gone into proven combos versusa guy doing econo porting out of his shop by hand? With cams specified by an internet wanna-be? There is simply no comparison.
But remember, it works well for some of us
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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But remember, it works well for some of us
agreed - far fewer than most.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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I dont know about that. Especially recently, look at all the ai and le cars putting down big numbers.
Im not say lpe doesnt put out good stuff or anything bad at all, but as i said before ,if i was doing a heads cam intake setup my money would be going to the guy in his garage.
Just my opinion.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 19z28camaro02
If i do go for the LPE option, I will have the heads ported. Also, does EPortworks include new rockers?
Definately LPE (right lane):


3750lb raceweight with the LPE 211/219, LPE ported LT4 heads/intake, 1.6RR's, 3.73 gears, Hooker LT's w/ offroad pipe, stock ignition, stock injectors, stock fuel pump. I could easily pass a sniffer with the dual cat y-pipe I had fabricated.
Car ran consistent 12.1 and 12.2's @ 114 to 115 depending on the weather. The posted slip was the best in 40* weather. This run was done before DA was such a big deal so I have no idea what it was.
Idle was smooth and the torque band was like stock, only higher.
You being an automatic w/ the correct gearing and stall, should easily be in the high 11's full weight.
Just food for thought about gearing... I had 4.11's in the car w/ this combo and never broke out of the 12.2 range at low 114mph. After putting 3.73's in it made all the difference because the engine was w/in it's power peak throughout a 1/4mi run.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Definately LPE (right lane):


3750lb raceweight with the LPE 211/219, LPE ported LT4 heads/intake, 1.6RR's, 3.73 gears, Hooker LT's w/ offroad pipe, stock ignition, stock injectors, stock fuel pump. I could easily pass a sniffer with the dual cat y-pipe I had fabricated.
Car ran consistent 12.1 and 12.2's @ 114 to 115 depending on the weather. The posted slip was the best in 40* weather. This run was done before DA was such a big deal so I have no idea what it was.
Idle was smooth and the torque band was like stock, only higher.
You being an automatic w/ the correct gearing and stall, should easily be in the high 11's full weight.
Just food for thought about gearing... I had 4.11's in the car w/ this combo and never broke out of the 12.2 range at low 114mph. After putting 3.73's in it made all the difference because the engine was w/in it's power peak throughout a 1/4mi run.
Nice mph, to bad it wasn't an auto with a nice converter and better 60s. Probably be in the 11.70 range. In the same weather of coarse.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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My money is with AI first I've seen a couple LT1 lingenfelter cars and they were pretty impressive for what they had (211/219 and LPE stock ported heads w/new valves). I'd have to choose LPE over Lloyd Elliot too, I've seen more than one set of LE heads with ugly unfinished looking port jobs. And I'm not talking about the set speeddemon sent to LE, because someone else fugged them up.

I have seen a comparison of LE heads and AI heads both within a smidgeon equal in cost for the head work, and it was hands down AI. But we all know that anyways...
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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I'd probably only give credit to the posts who actually have H/C combos in their sigs. The rest is just garbage and haters. This post included lol.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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I've seen alot of LE stuff do real well and I've seen AI do well and LPE has been around and always makes good parts. I doubt you could go wrong. But it does depend on what you are looking for.



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