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Old 10-23-2004, 09:11 AM
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

Originally Posted by teke184
270hp compared to 300-310hp....sure it is gonna feel slower
lol 275-285 CRANK power (305 ?? the SS models, but we all know about the exaggerated SS/ws-6 power ratings) for the lt-1, as opposed to an average of ~300 hp to the wheels for an LS-1.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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Excellent post eles1, 100% accurate
Thanks! Just sharing my personal experience with the two different drivetrains...
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

Originally Posted by CamaroSS30thAnn
315 with the 2otl . are u sure , where did u get that rating, i alway thought that 305hp was with the 2otl??
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Here's a little link I found from LS1tech. I found personal sites as well stating the 315HP with the optional exhaust (20TL), but tried to find better sources.
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P.S. Here is one more article I found as well. Link

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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

Originally Posted by BirchMan98z
lol 275-285 CRANK power (305 ?? the SS models, but we all know about the exaggerated SS/ws-6 power ratings) for the lt-1, as opposed to an average of ~300 hp to the wheels for an LS-1.
270-280 is underrated also anyways
300 crank is what they were normally putting out, it being a corvette engine and being underrated and all
so the lt1 ss pretty much put out anywhere from 310-320 hp at the crank, and that is NOT an exaggeration

and btw, i've seen multiple hp ratings for those 2otl ss's also
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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270-280 is underrated also anyways
300 crank is what they were normally putting out, it being a corvette engine and being underrated and all
so the lt1 ss pretty much put out anywhere from 310-320 hp at the crank, and that is NOT an exaggeration

and btw, i've seen multiple hp ratings for those 2otl ss's also
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underrated? Possibly so, but not significantly underrated like LS-1 cars tend to be. LOL Not that I'm ripping on LT-1/ LT-4 cars, I love them all.

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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

Originally Posted by CamaroSS30thAnn
Guess1
yes 87 octane could be ur main reason y the car does not feel like it should, LT1s dont like any fuel under 93 octane,
anything less than 93 will cause detonation and pinging , ur knock sensor will pick that up and retard the timeing , which wil result in a loss of power,
anybody correct me of im wrong , thanks
The PCM does run in a degraded mode when it detects low octane usage..however we are talking a few tenths difference.. it shouldnt be any major difference.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

low octane fuel could cause a knock retard, always use 91+ octane.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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underrated? Possibly so, but not significantly underrated like LS-1 cars tend to be. LOL Not that I'm ripping on LT-1/ LT-4 cars, I love them all.
haha, alright
i'll give it to you that the lt1 cars are not underrated by like 50 like the ls1s

just on a side note, does anybody have #s of how underrated fbody lt4s (ss, firehawk) were in comparison to corvette lt4s, if at all?
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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just on a side note, does anybody have #s of how underrated fbody lt4s (ss, firehawk) were in comparison to corvette lt4s, if at all?
II can't find the link at the moment, but I had a dyno sheet of a 96 vette with catback exhaust (a roughly stock LT4) that dynoed somwhere between 306 - 309 rwhp. If I can find that link, I'll post it as well!
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

If you get it I would invest in doing a tune up! The stock plugs are crap, replace the wires and check that air flitter. Most people run around with dirty air cleaners?? I have to clean mine every 3k or so or i notices and drop in performance.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

I would keep both cars.
I drag race quite a bit and the car breaks from time to time. I wish I had another fbody to drive while I am fixing the broke one. If the opti goes out on the lt1, drive the ls1. If the tranny goes out on the ls1, drive the lt1 until you get it fixed. Best of both worlds.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

Originally Posted by BirchMan98z
underrated? Possibly so, but not significantly underrated like LS-1 cars tend to be. LOL Not that I'm ripping on LT-1/ LT-4 cars, I love them all.
Yeah they are not underated by like 50 hp... its more like they made 300crank but got labled 275~285 regardless... the Corvette guys probably had a big enough fit with that.. its no wonder the fbody was severely underrated after that.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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My cam/headers LT1 has surprised quite a few cammed LS1s from a roll. Heck, from a dig on the street I lost to a buddy's heads/cam 02 1LE SS by only 1 car(it was the guy who makes the SSRA and Austin Qwik Stik and he is quite a good M6 driver/racer).
Not trying to start a flame war, but a stalled A4 LT1 with a cam will get out of the hole better than an LS1 with similar mods, and after that you guys are playing catch up, and that 1/4 mile mark comes up fast.
I'm sorry, I've owned both an LT1 and an LS1 and an LT1 will not "Get out of the hole" better than an LS1 with similar mods. Nor will it even come close to it in the quarter mile. Keep in mind that LS1's with fairly mild cams (224) are putting down MUCH more power than a heavily cammed LT1. My car did 411 on cam and 460 with heads with only a 228/230. Bottom line - if you are beating cammed LS1's, you are finding some bad drivers.
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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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I'm sorry, I've owned both an LT1 and an LS1 and an LT1 will not "Get out of the hole" better than an LS1 with similar mods. Nor will it even come close to it in the quarter mile. Keep in mind that LS1's with fairly mild cams (224) are putting down MUCH more power than a heavily cammed LT1. My car did 411 on cam and 460 with heads with only a 228/230. Bottom line - if you are beating cammed LS1's, you are finding some bad drivers.
well im gonna have to disagree.... i raced a new 00 z28 with flowmaster, lid and k&n filter with my 95z with a magnaflow and k&n cai and i ripped that car a new a$$ off the line (both autos by the way) but let me tell you i never new what top end they had until he pulled past me like i was just cruising along, it was sick.. the Ls1 power curve was made for mid to top end power not down low... and just because you have a cammed LS1 doesnt mean your soposed to beat a LT1, if you can't get the power to the ground you can't go anywhere...i've beatin blown ls1's with my cammed LT1 so i wouldn't call it bad drivers i would call it a crappy set up...

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Re: Is the LS1 that much more powerful than LT1 SS?

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well im gonna have to disagree.... i raced a new 00 z28 with flowmaster, lid and k&n filter with my 95z with a magnaflow and k&n cai and i ripped that car a new a$$ off the line (both autos by the way) but let me tell you i never new what top end they had until he pulled past me like i was just cruising along, it was sick.. the Ls1 power curve was made for mid to top end power not down low... and just because you have a cammed LS1 doesnt mean your soposed to beat a LT1, if you can't get the power to the ground you can't go anywhere...i've beatin blown ls1's with my cammed LT1 so i wouldn't call it bad drivers i would call it a crappy set up...
You're just talking about a couple cars with bad tires!

The only place an LT1 can compete with an LS1 with "similar mods" is in the 60' time.........beyond that, the LS1 is gone (this is assuming both cars being driven to their full potential, and good tires on both so that all things are "equal" except the motors).
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