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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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I understand from someone who tried to open it with MS Works rather than an actual copy of Excel that the password protection seems to prevent it from opening.
Thats me you talking about

MS Works comes with a spreadsheet that works just like MS Excell tough. So I am going to do my own from chicken scratch.


** I tried everything and MS wont open the Excell sheet you sent me. Thank you anyways. That was nice of you.

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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Injected SS,
You are unbelievable, Fred, who has forgetten more about LT1's than you'll ever know advises you, and you bad mouth him.

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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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Originally posted by anaik
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You are unbelievable, Fred, who has forgetten more about LT1's than you'll ever know advises you, and you bad mouth him.
WTF? You little a$$hole I never bad mouthed him He just didn't answer my question like I needed it answered like TriPinTaZ and DanK answered it! Nothing wrong with that.. Fred's answer was fine. We all respect his knowledge, sometimes he just get's carried away that's all.. Not like we hate him or bad mouth him for it...

Your obviously just trying to nut swing I respect Fred and what he has to say.. He and only a handful of other people are the only people that I will even consider taking advice from on here...

As far as "knows more about LT1's than I will ever know" What an ignorant statment. You don't know me. When you start pulling times like MINE then maybe I will take your words into consideration... Cause I obviously must know SOMETHING

Until then keep being the little bitch a$$ nutswinging troll that you are
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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It seems to me that insults don't contribute to a useful discussion. Can't we all get along?

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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by rskrause
It seems to me that insults don't contribute to a useful discussion. Can't we all get along?

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I agree Rich but hey he had no reason to go off like that Im not gonna sit and listen to some little nut swinger try to talk crap to me like that. Always some little troll that's gotta say something ignorant
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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This whole thread is just another example of the reason I'm about to leave this board, and limit my posts to Advanced Tech. As a minimum, there are people whose posts I totally ignore, because it seems like no matter how hard you try to help them, they find fault with it.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Injuneer.....I have a question!

I'm trying to follow your first reply to this post... one out of the only two or three that was useful too, BTW...

You said to divide the displacement (in ft^3) of the engine by 2, and multiply that by the RPM, and this will give you CFM.

Writing this out on paper, I have

ft^3 x rev = ft^3 x rev
2........min..........2 x min

(Excuse all those "....."'s ... I needed that so the fractions would line up.)
What am I missing here?


I figured it out.... i forgot another part, theres 1 intake stroke for every 2 rev's of the crank. So, you multiply the above equation by 1/2, which equals the formula already stated... I did it again, I answered my own question... shoulda thought it out more sorry for thinking out loud.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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I would like to see that spread sheet if you get a chance.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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because it seems like no matter how hard you try to help them, they find fault with it.
I know exactly what you mean Fred. Picture this... Me Red Camaro z28 black top driving way out there in the sticks..... way way in the South. I spot a white Silverado stranded on the side of the road... I pull up to help... is being driven by a White Man with shaven Head and has the confederate flag wraped on his cabin seat...I notice his bumper sticker "the south will rise". Me hispanic with spanish accent and light brown complexion. I asked him if he needs a ride to the nearest town. He looks at me Like I am out of my freaggin mind and then He replys "why dont you mind your F&%$ng bussiness! wet back!" with a deep, corn-fed overgrown Alabama Accent. Being the mentally disturbed person that I am I look at him in the eye (at a safe distance) and then while I rub my crotch I say "Boy do I like your women soo much better" with the nasties Mexican accent I could imitate... Man the dude ran to pull something out of his truck, I flew out to my car and I was out of there faster than hungry Hick bites on a boiled racoon for dinner... (oops I shoulndt have said that). But honest I was so sore for gettin insulted while all I wanted was to help a fellow human being in distress.

I am serious, I know what Fred is saying.

Marvin

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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by TriPinTaZ
YES, at WOT the VE tables AND the PE tables are both used.

if your MAF is disabled then your cars PCM relies directly on your VE TABLES for fuel. When the car enters PE mode at WOT the number in the PE table is the % fuel increase/decrease from what the VE table says.

In speed density mode the PCM will not ignore VE tables at WOT, it just adds/subtracts the % of fuel that is in the PE table FROM the VE table.

The only issue with Speed Density is tuning it for part throttle driving, it takes alot of time and effort to get it right and when the weather changes ( humidity/temp ) the PCM will not compensate like a car with a MAF would. So you might find you need to make a few different tunes when you go to the track based on the weather to get the most out of your car.
Does this apply to OBD I LT1, as well as OBD II LT1 and LS1?

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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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i know it works on OBD2 LT1, cant say for any other
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