Yeah, but it also has to appeal to a lot of people to keep it in production and to keep it inexpensive to the general public and to the real enthusiasts.

 

OK,plain and simple....It is just....WRONG.

 

You want to bring more/new people into the Camaro world....how about:
advertise-
low prices-
attractive exterior/interior-
larger variety of color choices-
model choices(sport coupe,type lt,RS,Z28,SS or combos of the models mentioned like RS/SS)
engines-base V6/V8(variety of hp ranging from 200 to 280) for the coupe,Type lt,RS
then the variety of H.O. V8s(hp ranging from 330-400+) for the high end models-Z28,SS and the RS or Type LT combo models like the 1stgens and 2ndgens had.If you want to add a s/c to any of these go ahead.I'd just like to see what the people that made fun of the '03 Cobra for having/needing a s/c to get decent hp out of their engine would say.

 

i'd have to say it would turn away hardcore enthusiasts because its like putting half an engine in the same car
and i would think there are more hardcore enthusiasts they want to sell to, and/or people sitting on the fence debating between stangs and camaros than there are people who want a 4banger camaro

 

OK. Let's say I'm in the market for an '08 Z/28. I'm buying that car because it has everything I want. It has a 395 hp LS2, close ratio T56, big brakes, good suspension, 18" wheels, "special' driver's seat, cool styling. I love it, and I'm gonna spend...say $30k for it.

Now if Camaro also has a lower end performance package, with 230 horse Ecotec, 6 speed, 17" wheels ( think Chevy rendition of 924/944, 240SX, or Alfa Romeo GTV), for $20K....is that going to make me NOT buy the Z/28?


Don't be ridiculous guys. If you don't like 4 bangers that's one thing....but don't tell me that no one will buy them....or "hardcore" enthusiasts won't buy V8's, if an Ecotec is offered in a Camaro.

That old weezy 100hp Iron Duke didn't stop people from buying Z/28's and Trans Ams when it was available. The 2.3 I4 didn't stop people from buying 5.0 Mustangs either. In fact Ford stepped up a notch and offered a 2.3 Turbo in the SVO and for a couple of years in the GT.

I'm trying to think "out of the box" here.
There maybe lots of reasons for Camaro to NOT have an Ecotec......but I haven't heard one good one yet.

 

I'd never buy any camaro short of a z28 or SS. It's v8 or no camaro for me.

The S/c ecotec would make for a nnice base engine. But a well built 3.XL Sohc/Dohc v6, would be capable of making more power. Why settle for a sub-200 I4 (which is what the late-base 3.8L camaro made), when you can have a 250hp v6? For that reason, i'd say make the base engine a 3.6L or 3.9L 230-250hp v6, and let the v8's start from 300 on up.

 

The only reasons not to offer it IMO:

-There is not siginificant demand to support the cost of a Turbo/Supercharged I4 over other power plants.

-Offering a different power plant would present significant cost savings over a Turbo/Supercharged I4 or better fill the power-nitch needed for the Camaro.

 

If they do offer a 4 banger, I feel the first of many fart cannons I'll see affixed to the rear end of those cars...

 

Yeah really..

 

Supercharged eco for 20k? Great idea! Calling it a Camaro. That's a sin.

 

Well...what can I say. It seems we see things from different perspectives.

When I say 4 cylinder Camaro...alot of you think clapped out Civic with a fart can and neon lights.

I see it differently. I think of all the neat and fun 4 cyl RWD cars of the past.

I think Porsche 924/944/968, original RWD Celica, Mustang SVO, Alfa Romeo GTV, Nissan 240SX, Cosworth Vega. A S/C Ecotec Camaro would be in good company with these cars.

My personal "big take away"from reading all of these posts is....Ecotec debate aside.....Camaro could stand to benefit from a broader enthusiast base.

 

Leave this package for the Solstice, and not the Camaro.

 

The question was "Would you buy a supercharged Ecotec Camaro for $20K?"

I'm just saying I wouldn't.

But there definitely is a market for one.

 

Yep, I'd buy it - as long as it had a tranny and rear end capable of handling some severe engine enhancements (i.e. none of this weak-*** 4L60/7.625" stuff). I'm also going on the assumption that this thing weighs not much more than 3000 lbs.

Combine all of these, and you've got a light, robust, fast, and easily-modded car. Sounds like Camaro DNA to me. As much as I like V8s, I drive cars and not just engines, so the overall performance of a given package is what interests me.

 

And now you know why I shake my head (and want to bang it into a wall) when I read some threads on this board..........

I don't know what you had in mind when you asked the question Z284ever, but let me throw a few things out there........

I don't THINK that Z284ev. is asking you if YOU'D necessarily buy a 4 cylinder supercharged Camaro........assuming that you are on this board tends to mean that you are a performance car enthusiast....and I would suspect that 99 percent of you would want the car with a big honking V8....the more hp the better.......I think what he's saying (and he's correct) that in order to get the volume up over a period of years.......the car has to appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone wants a big honking V8...if that were the case, all Mustangs would be sold with V8s....they aren't....the majority of them are sold with Base V6s..........(look at the numbers...don't tell me what you think they sell...give me the facts when rebutting.........)

If you're saying that you'd never ever consider buying a 5th Gen Camaro with a big honking V8 (class leading performance) because we also offered a supercharged 4 cylinder, then I guess I'm wondering 'What the heck?!?!?!?!?'

Yup, we offered 396s and 302s and 350s in the '67 Camaro....but a whole buncha them were built with the 230 and 250 inline 6.....